You said that personal value decides the price, but if the market opens up which ''lowers'' the price then personal value was not the main factor in the price of that product

It does play a factor, which is what I was arguing

Of course the amount of people working on a product also determines the value

However if enough people value it it would bring in competition

which lowers prices

So then subjective value does not decide market prices but there are a miriad of factors?

It does decide market value in a free market

Not instantly but it does in time

I'm curious as to how old this illiterate anarchist cunt is. Because for someone to live this long without a brain is amazing

So then personal value is the sole decider in market prices?

No

How common a product is too, tulips were very expensive at a certain time

Because certain types are rare

So then subjective value does not decide market prices but there are a miriad of factors?

Stop this. You are monopolising the higher ground.

However a product like bread (which was the original product we were talking about) it is the value other people place on it

You seem to think that if personal value doesn't change the price in less than 10 seconds that it doesn't determine the price

No

Fact is tulips are cheap now because competition arose because it was valued

I am trying to get you to admit whether personal value is the decider in the price or not and you contradict yourself left right and center

It is

Said that many many many times

Not sure what you're fishing for

So then how would more competition create cheaper prices when prices are derived from personal value?

The personal value drove the competition

And the competition supposedly drives the prices down, meaning there are multiple factors deciding the price and personal value is not the sole decider?

No, personal value>more competition>lower prices

The value must come first

the competition itself is a result of the value given to a product

So then youve just proven that personal value creates other factors which then may drive the prices down?

Yes

I.E Greater production capibilities

That doesn't contradict my first statement

I think me and twist are different kinds of anarchists. Unions, co-opts and syndicates make me nervous.

they should

Are you an individualist anarchist or ancap?

I guess individualist.

this is my position on black rights

https://youtu.be/B5J0Ld_n_NQ

Then a socialist economic organisation is better. At least there you get to keep the fruits of your labor and have an equal say in production management.

is the toothbrush sharing joke actually a joke