Message from @Timo)))
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Even if you make it to heaven, there's a chance a good friend or family member will not, which adds stress and terror to your life
This is deep theology. But like I said, it creates a divide against the believers and non-believers. Apart of self-esteem is knowing the torment that you have avoided. In proposing a fate worse than death, it actually increases the religious response even more.
Maybe adding terror makes people even more religious.
Right, but why add it if it's jut to cope with terror
If it was really just that you wouldn't end up with christianity, it'd be much more soft
If religious is a coping mechanism which works, that a super terror makes a more robust coping mechanism. The greater the terror, the stronger the religious response, and the greater the feelings of invulnerabilty. It's a feedback loop. Once you start it, it feeds on itself.
The people that strike me as less afraid of death are the non religious people
Thinking of religion as simply a coping mechanism is too one dimensional imo
Of course non religious people are not afraid of death, if they were they would be more religious. This is what the theory predicts.
Atheism is relatively new. The comforts of modern life make people less afraid, less consciousness of death.
So people are afraid of death, so they believe in a system in which they can end up at a fate worse than death?
Not only them but everyone they know
Seems to add a lot of stress about death
Not for the the believers.
Yes it does
If you believe you are saved.
Book of revelations tell me otherwise
Jesus is a harsh judge
Are you telling me that Jesus does not save who believe in Him?
This is pretty contradictory.
You gotta follow Him and His teachings.
So is your theory about it being a coping mechanism
"He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned."
Right, and rich people don't enter heaven
Even if they believe
I will take the Gospels over Revelations.
Take the easy route in otherwords
Easy route?
Gospels are more central and came first.
Yes, merely believing and thinking you're done is the easy route
The issue is that belief is something like an observation. Whilst using that belief for more is what saves you.
Also, fuck. Ignore me.
My typing is being very slow
I'm not ignoring you.
Like, you can't be an active rapist, murderer, paedophile, sodomite, animal-abuser and go to heaven. All because you believed.
Also, rich people CAN get into heaven. https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/can-a-rich-person-get-to-heaven
''The saying was a response to a young rich man who had asked Jesus what he needed to do in order to inherit eternal life. Jesus replied that he should keep the commandments, to which the man stated he had done. Jesus responded, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." The young man became sad and was unwilling to do this. Jesus then spoke this response, leaving his disciples astonished.''
You're meant to fight against your sin, believing that those sins are wrong and such is not enough. Although I know we all conciously sin still, but you know.
Anyway, religion is still offering a pathway to immortal life, that's the main point for the theory to work.