Message from @Anglican

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2017-09-09 07:14:20 UTC  

Seems to add a lot of stress about death

2017-09-09 07:14:22 UTC  

Not for the the believers.

2017-09-09 07:14:28 UTC  

Yes it does

2017-09-09 07:14:37 UTC  

If you believe you are saved.

2017-09-09 07:14:49 UTC  

Book of revelations tell me otherwise

2017-09-09 07:14:54 UTC  

Jesus is a harsh judge

2017-09-09 07:15:16 UTC  

Are you telling me that Jesus does not save who believe in Him?

2017-09-09 07:15:46 UTC  

Not only by believing

2017-09-09 07:15:46 UTC  

This is pretty contradictory.

2017-09-09 07:16:12 UTC  

You gotta follow Him and His teachings.

2017-09-09 07:16:21 UTC  

So is your theory about it being a coping mechanism

2017-09-09 07:16:22 UTC  

"He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned."

2017-09-09 07:16:38 UTC  

Right, and rich people don't enter heaven

2017-09-09 07:16:43 UTC  

Even if they believe

2017-09-09 07:16:43 UTC  

I will take the Gospels over Revelations.

2017-09-09 07:16:58 UTC  

Take the easy route in otherwords

2017-09-09 07:17:05 UTC  

Easy route?

2017-09-09 07:17:15 UTC  

Gospels are more central and came first.

2017-09-09 07:17:18 UTC  

Yes, merely believing and thinking you're done is the easy route

2017-09-09 07:17:25 UTC  

The issue is that belief is something like an observation. Whilst using that belief for more is what saves you.

2017-09-09 07:17:40 UTC  

Also, fuck. Ignore me.

2017-09-09 07:17:44 UTC  

My typing is being very slow

2017-09-09 07:17:55 UTC  

I'm not ignoring you.

2017-09-09 07:18:42 UTC  

Like, you can't be an active rapist, murderer, paedophile, sodomite, animal-abuser and go to heaven. All because you believed.

2017-09-09 07:18:55 UTC  
2017-09-09 07:18:59 UTC  

''The saying was a response to a young rich man who had asked Jesus what he needed to do in order to inherit eternal life. Jesus replied that he should keep the commandments, to which the man stated he had done. Jesus responded, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." The young man became sad and was unwilling to do this. Jesus then spoke this response, leaving his disciples astonished.''

2017-09-09 07:19:33 UTC  

You're meant to fight against your sin, believing that those sins are wrong and such is not enough. Although I know we all conciously sin still, but you know.

2017-09-09 07:20:14 UTC  

Anyway, religion is still offering a pathway to immortal life, that's the main point for the theory to work.

2017-09-09 07:20:37 UTC  

That's the natural assumpition of the human mind.

2017-09-09 07:21:00 UTC  

And hell, which non religious people don't need to worry about

2017-09-09 07:21:21 UTC  

We already discussed this.

2017-09-09 07:21:35 UTC  

Threat of death comes first.

2017-09-09 07:21:54 UTC  

And is less terror than the thought of hell

2017-09-09 07:22:01 UTC  

I didn't much worry about death even when I was an atheist.

2017-09-09 07:22:03 UTC  

For you and your loved ones

2017-09-09 07:22:39 UTC  

Threat of death -> make religion to cope -> raise the stakes to increase stakes and confidence -> increases need to convert and herd society into the religion

2017-09-09 07:23:10 UTC  

Death was just death to myself; I don't think a fear of death (in the modern world) is the issue. it's a need for support in a collasping society.

2017-09-09 07:23:12 UTC  

too one dimensional

2017-09-09 07:23:34 UTC  

>too one dimensional
How's that?

2017-09-09 07:23:58 UTC  

There's heaven so that means is nothing but a coping mechanism is what it sounds like

2017-09-09 07:24:04 UTC  

We fear death when we have strong families and close-knitted together communities. Not falling a part shit piles based upon bullshit values.