Message from @Timo)))

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2017-09-09 06:59:24 UTC  

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2017-09-09 07:00:06 UTC  

If religion is a way to cope with the fear of death why would they create the idea of hell, which is worse than death?

2017-09-09 07:01:11 UTC  

To keep you from leaving the religion.

2017-09-09 07:01:22 UTC  

Yes but why

2017-09-09 07:01:27 UTC  

That creates more terror

2017-09-09 07:01:43 UTC  

If religion is just to make life easy why add the horrible stuff

2017-09-09 07:02:05 UTC  

Chance of salvation vs no chance of salvation. It reinforces the society to conform to the religion, thus increasing the overall self-esteem and feelings of invulnerability.

2017-09-09 07:02:51 UTC  

The Book of Revelations gives little comfort

2017-09-09 07:02:59 UTC  

Apocolyps and few will make it to heaven

2017-09-09 07:03:19 UTC  

It's acts like a herding dog.

2017-09-09 07:03:49 UTC  

Which creates a fate worse than death, so I don't think religion is a coping mechanism

2017-09-09 07:04:33 UTC  

If anything thinking nothing comes after life is more comforting

2017-09-09 07:04:56 UTC  

What Christian actively believes they are going to Hell though? Kind of defeats the point. It's a way to 'punish' the unbelievers, while knowing you will instead be saved. Hell is not random, it is reserved for the unrepentant.

2017-09-09 07:05:12 UTC  

It raises the stakes.

2017-09-09 07:05:41 UTC  

Like I said, the book of revelations says very few will make it to heaven

2017-09-09 07:05:49 UTC  

Rich people too, will not enter heaven

2017-09-09 07:05:54 UTC  

It's not very comforting

2017-09-09 07:07:02 UTC  

Even if you make it to heaven, there's a chance a good friend or family member will not, which adds stress and terror to your life

2017-09-09 07:07:06 UTC  

This is deep theology. But like I said, it creates a divide against the believers and non-believers. Apart of self-esteem is knowing the torment that you have avoided. In proposing a fate worse than death, it actually increases the religious response even more.

2017-09-09 07:07:46 UTC  

Maybe adding terror makes people even more religious.

2017-09-09 07:08:15 UTC  

Right, but why add it if it's jut to cope with terror

2017-09-09 07:08:45 UTC  

If it was really just that you wouldn't end up with christianity, it'd be much more soft

2017-09-09 07:09:37 UTC  

If religious is a coping mechanism which works, that a super terror makes a more robust coping mechanism. The greater the terror, the stronger the religious response, and the greater the feelings of invulnerabilty. It's a feedback loop. Once you start it, it feeds on itself.

2017-09-09 07:10:30 UTC  

The people that strike me as less afraid of death are the non religious people

2017-09-09 07:10:47 UTC  

Thinking of religion as simply a coping mechanism is too one dimensional imo

2017-09-09 07:11:57 UTC  

Of course non religious people are not afraid of death, if they were they would be more religious. This is what the theory predicts.

2017-09-09 07:12:50 UTC  

Atheism is relatively new. The comforts of modern life make people less afraid, less consciousness of death.

2017-09-09 07:13:56 UTC  

So people are afraid of death, so they believe in a system in which they can end up at a fate worse than death?

2017-09-09 07:14:08 UTC  

Not only them but everyone they know

2017-09-09 07:14:20 UTC  

Seems to add a lot of stress about death

2017-09-09 07:14:22 UTC  

Not for the the believers.

2017-09-09 07:14:28 UTC  

Yes it does

2017-09-09 07:14:37 UTC  

If you believe you are saved.

2017-09-09 07:14:49 UTC  

Book of revelations tell me otherwise

2017-09-09 07:14:54 UTC  

Jesus is a harsh judge

2017-09-09 07:15:16 UTC  

Are you telling me that Jesus does not save who believe in Him?

2017-09-09 07:15:46 UTC  

Not only by believing

2017-09-09 07:15:46 UTC  

This is pretty contradictory.

2017-09-09 07:16:12 UTC  

You gotta follow Him and His teachings.

2017-09-09 07:16:21 UTC  

So is your theory about it being a coping mechanism