Message from @Comrade Skeltal

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2018-01-10 12:16:39 UTC  
2018-01-10 13:33:59 UTC  

Suhh

2018-01-10 13:34:08 UTC  

Wew ded shit eee

2018-01-10 13:44:57 UTC  

10/10

2018-01-10 13:45:23 UTC  

Fucking got me..

2018-01-10 16:16:24 UTC  

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2018-01-10 16:31:20 UTC  

jesus christ

2018-01-10 17:02:02 UTC  

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2018-01-10 17:15:09 UTC  

~SocDems

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/400699096106532864/socfasc.PNG

2018-01-10 17:18:18 UTC  

@Sinnaj63 This describes everything wrong with the alt-right, they either have no idea why they should believen something, or just believen it because other people do.

2018-01-10 17:18:48 UTC  

Yes but its also self proclaimed social democrats saying that

2018-01-10 17:19:00 UTC  

I mean socdems are bad already

2018-01-10 17:40:50 UTC  

Socdems are fucking retarded.

2018-01-10 17:41:08 UTC  

Yeh fuccem

2018-01-10 17:44:22 UTC  

Ethnonationalism, as a concept, is not a bad thing. White supermajority in Europe and North America? Nothing wrong with that, same case with African supermajorities in Africa and Asian supermajorities in Asia. Getting a supermajority in somewhere like the United States is what makes people lose faith in such an idea.
That demsoc is right in saying there is no flaw in ethnonationalism, but there are possible ethical concerns with achieving an ethnostate.

2018-01-10 17:46:53 UTC  

Unless of course it's borne primarily out of a need for exploitation and it's legacy is that of purposeful disenfranchisment

2018-01-10 17:47:19 UTC  

What are you muttering about?

2018-01-10 17:47:47 UTC  

These places aren't supermajorities because that's just "How they should be" they're super majorities as a result of social crafting to the detriment of minorities

2018-01-10 17:48:03 UTC  

Atleast in the case of America and a lesser extent Europe

2018-01-10 17:48:35 UTC  

Which means ethnonationalism is indeed ass

2018-01-10 17:48:42 UTC  

Within these given contexts anyway

2018-01-10 17:49:20 UTC  

But America is not a supermajority, it has extremely large ethnic minorities.
Europe has got larger white majorities but it isn't because the whites bullied blacks out of Europe it's because not many came to Europe in the first place.

2018-01-10 17:49:23 UTC  

Its how the ethnic nationalism is used

2018-01-10 17:49:34 UTC  

It does NOW

2018-01-10 17:50:02 UTC  

But it didn't, and when it didnt, It was a matter of social construction

2018-01-10 17:50:08 UTC  

In the case of America obviously

2018-01-10 17:50:16 UTC  

You talking about Jim Crowe?

2018-01-10 17:50:28 UTC  

And no with Europe it was literally keeping people out, or rather preoccupying them in their own lands through imperialism

2018-01-10 17:50:54 UTC  

It wasn't till after the western world had their way with everyone else that masses began to immigrate

2018-01-10 17:51:03 UTC  

But again, that shouldn't justify ethnic nationalism

2018-01-10 17:51:27 UTC  

Especially when the only reason it's even a topic of debate at this point is as a result of dubious policy that now potentially "threatens" It

2018-01-10 17:51:53 UTC  

As if the only thing that goes into being a member of a nation, is ethnicity

2018-01-10 17:53:13 UTC  

And when you point out African super majorities

2018-01-10 17:53:21 UTC  

You deny a whole history prior to what the 70s

2018-01-10 17:53:44 UTC  

Well I think the last bit of white majority holding ended in the 70s

2018-01-10 17:54:04 UTC  

But the point was "ethnic supermajority" or not, it obviously didn't matter too much

2018-01-10 17:54:46 UTC  

The states were governed by those not of that supermajority with the support of regional strongmen that turned into dictators later :l

2018-01-10 17:56:40 UTC  

So yea it's entirely a bad thing because they never just find themselves maintained naturally because "why not" it's a matter of economic and racial dimensions, a deliberate choice. To the detriment of brown people globally :l

2018-01-10 17:57:47 UTC  

So you do not disagree with "not many came to Europe in the first place." and then you went on a tirade about imperialism and what it means to be a member of a nation?
Aight.
And now you're saying that ethnonationalism harms blacks globally because empires existed?
Aight. Sure. Whites being the majority in their own countries harms blacks in Africa somehow.

2018-01-10 17:59:02 UTC  

Unless you're saying that whites being the majority in their own countries lead to whites colonising everything or some dumb shit, in which case let me drag you into the 21st century by telling you that the age of empires is over.