Message from @Comrade Skeltal
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@Brickiest Brick lmao
Suhh
Wew ded shit eee
10/10
Fucking got me..
jesus christ
~SocDems
@Sinnaj63 This describes everything wrong with the alt-right, they either have no idea why they should believen something, or just believen it because other people do.
Yes but its also self proclaimed social democrats saying that
I mean socdems are bad already
Socdems are fucking retarded.
Yeh fuccem
Ethnonationalism, as a concept, is not a bad thing. White supermajority in Europe and North America? Nothing wrong with that, same case with African supermajorities in Africa and Asian supermajorities in Asia. Getting a supermajority in somewhere like the United States is what makes people lose faith in such an idea.
That demsoc is right in saying there is no flaw in ethnonationalism, but there are possible ethical concerns with achieving an ethnostate.
Unless of course it's borne primarily out of a need for exploitation and it's legacy is that of purposeful disenfranchisment
What are you muttering about?
These places aren't supermajorities because that's just "How they should be" they're super majorities as a result of social crafting to the detriment of minorities
Atleast in the case of America and a lesser extent Europe
Within these given contexts anyway
But America is not a supermajority, it has extremely large ethnic minorities.
Europe has got larger white majorities but it isn't because the whites bullied blacks out of Europe it's because not many came to Europe in the first place.
Its how the ethnic nationalism is used
It does NOW
But it didn't, and when it didnt, It was a matter of social construction
In the case of America obviously
You talking about Jim Crowe?
And no with Europe it was literally keeping people out, or rather preoccupying them in their own lands through imperialism
It wasn't till after the western world had their way with everyone else that masses began to immigrate
But again, that shouldn't justify ethnic nationalism
Especially when the only reason it's even a topic of debate at this point is as a result of dubious policy that now potentially "threatens" It
As if the only thing that goes into being a member of a nation, is ethnicity
And when you point out African super majorities
You deny a whole history prior to what the 70s
Well I think the last bit of white majority holding ended in the 70s
But the point was "ethnic supermajority" or not, it obviously didn't matter too much
The states were governed by those not of that supermajority with the support of regional strongmen that turned into dictators later :l
So yea it's entirely a bad thing because they never just find themselves maintained naturally because "why not" it's a matter of economic and racial dimensions, a deliberate choice. To the detriment of brown people globally :l
So you do not disagree with "not many came to Europe in the first place." and then you went on a tirade about imperialism and what it means to be a member of a nation?
Aight.
And now you're saying that ethnonationalism harms blacks globally because empires existed?
Aight. Sure. Whites being the majority in their own countries harms blacks in Africa somehow.
Unless you're saying that whites being the majority in their own countries lead to whites colonising everything or some dumb shit, in which case let me drag you into the 21st century by telling you that the age of empires is over.