Message from @Americus
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@im in the middle of nowhere bruh tribalism is not classism by any means
Imagine actually getting hard over the Nazi rise to power
Then hindenburg appointed him somewhere else to appease him
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Basically
Primitive communism was classless
What a pussy as way to seize control of a state
Murder workers opposition
Exactly, so you can't say he was elected
Make deals with the capitalist class
@Monolith I just described societies in which there are no class distinctions and they still go on to formulate a state. The state is an inevitability in human society, especially in more complex industrial ones
He was appointed to a position then took control from there
And basically walk into the halls of power with a red carpet
This is a mess because of Danny @Danny Sullivan
@Monolith primitive communism wasn’t big enough to be a large scale society
For example the kulak and the middle peasent in Russia
I'm just proving your bullshit wrong
@Danny Sullivan what a cowardly way to let Vladimir Lenin and Leon Trotsky to do all the hard work during the Russian Civil War, only to then take advantage of Lenin's death and exile Trotsky, and making yourself become leader despite minimal contributions to the actual struggle besides robbing banks.
You don't like it fuck you
@Deleted User see the Gdańsk area was mutli ethnic it's been like that for a while a bunch of Poles and Germans live there but is culturally important to Poland
Danny the homo
@Deleted User who are you talking about
@Valeska-ἑταίρα Danzig is also culturally important to Germany, the region was controlled by Germany in some way or another for over two centuries
@Americus Those societies are not independent of the state they exist in, they still play a role in the overall economic structure
@Danny Sullivan Stalin
@Monolith So what are the classes present in those societies? You haven't answered my question
@Deleted User but it was also Polish for quite a while as well you can't deny that
@Deleted User Stalin was a General in the red army and played a massive role in winning the revolution and civil war
Not to mention they are still a class akin to peasentry
Hitler never lead any grass roots movement
Stalin just fucked around in Tsaritsyn and lost the Polish war
Stalin wasn't in the Polish war
That was Trotsky who lost it
He was the officer in charge of that war
Tortsky
No Stalin's refusal to guard Trotsky's flanks is what allowed the Poles to make their stunning counteroffensive
Stalin was a commander in the war too, but not as senior
I mean throughout the entire war Poland did really well
It wasn't Trotsky's flanks it was Tukhachevsky iirc