Message from @Americus

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2019-06-25 04:32:48 UTC  

@Danny Sullivan the Weimar Republic was a republic, the monarchy was officially abolished in 1919

2019-06-25 04:32:54 UTC  

Please don't same dumb shit like that

2019-06-25 04:33:05 UTC  

Wilhelm II had no power in Germany since the end of World War 1

2019-06-25 04:33:24 UTC  

@Deleted User yeah but if Germany took the Studentenland the borders would look ugly

2019-06-25 04:33:25 UTC  

Didn't hitler lose the election, then get appointed chancellor, then seize control

2019-06-25 04:33:42 UTC  

@Deleted User hitler still had the position of chancellor handed to him

2019-06-25 04:33:42 UTC  

@Monolith that would be cool and all if humans weren’t Inherently tribalistic

2019-06-25 04:33:45 UTC  

@Kyger he didn't lose he just didn't win the seat he wanted

2019-06-25 04:33:56 UTC  

@Danny Sullivan yes, he legally came to power regardless

2019-06-25 04:34:01 UTC  

He ran in the presidential election and lost it

2019-06-25 04:34:04 UTC  

@im in the middle of nowhere bruh tribalism is not classism by any means

2019-06-25 04:34:10 UTC  

Imagine actually getting hard over the Nazi rise to power

2019-06-25 04:34:10 UTC  

Then hindenburg appointed him somewhere else to appease him

2019-06-25 04:34:14 UTC  

?

2019-06-25 04:34:19 UTC  

Basically

2019-06-25 04:34:20 UTC  

Primitive communism was classless

2019-06-25 04:34:22 UTC  

What a pussy as way to seize control of a state

2019-06-25 04:34:35 UTC  

Murder workers opposition

2019-06-25 04:34:40 UTC  

Exactly, so you can't say he was elected

2019-06-25 04:34:41 UTC  

Make deals with the capitalist class

2019-06-25 04:34:49 UTC  

@Monolith I just described societies in which there are no class distinctions and they still go on to formulate a state. The state is an inevitability in human society, especially in more complex industrial ones

2019-06-25 04:34:49 UTC  

He was appointed to a position then took control from there

2019-06-25 04:34:52 UTC  

And basically walk into the halls of power with a red carpet

2019-06-25 04:34:56 UTC  

This is a mess because of Danny @Danny Sullivan

2019-06-25 04:35:21 UTC  

@Americus Except classes do exist in even those societies

2019-06-25 04:35:24 UTC  

@Monolith primitive communism wasn’t big enough to be a large scale society

2019-06-25 04:35:36 UTC  

For example the kulak and the middle peasent in Russia

2019-06-25 04:35:41 UTC  

I'm just proving your bullshit wrong

2019-06-25 04:35:42 UTC  

@Danny Sullivan what a cowardly way to let Vladimir Lenin and Leon Trotsky to do all the hard work during the Russian Civil War, only to then take advantage of Lenin's death and exile Trotsky, and making yourself become leader despite minimal contributions to the actual struggle besides robbing banks.

2019-06-25 04:35:49 UTC  

You don't like it fuck you

2019-06-25 04:35:51 UTC  

@Monolith How about Amish societies, what are the classes present in those?

2019-06-25 04:36:13 UTC  

@Deleted User see the Gdańsk area was mutli ethnic it's been like that for a while a bunch of Poles and Germans live there but is culturally important to Poland

2019-06-25 04:36:14 UTC  

Danny the homo

2019-06-25 04:36:39 UTC  

@Deleted User who are you talking about

2019-06-25 04:36:57 UTC  

@Valeska-ἑταίρα Danzig is also culturally important to Germany, the region was controlled by Germany in some way or another for over two centuries

2019-06-25 04:37:08 UTC  

@Americus Those societies are not independent of the state they exist in, they still play a role in the overall economic structure

2019-06-25 04:37:22 UTC  
2019-06-25 04:37:50 UTC  

@Monolith So what are the classes present in those societies? You haven't answered my question

2019-06-25 04:37:53 UTC  

@Deleted User but it was also Polish for quite a while as well you can't deny that

2019-06-25 04:38:04 UTC  

@Deleted User Stalin was a General in the red army and played a massive role in winning the revolution and civil war

2019-06-25 04:38:09 UTC  

Not to mention they are still a class akin to peasentry