@Americus Except it isn't abolished, I just explained that the Amish are of the peasentry class

Class: A group of people sharing common relations to labor and the means of production.

Within their communities there are no class distinctions

@Danny Sullivan answer my question first

If they're so disabled keeping them alive is more resources than they can produce isn't worth it

They are clearly a class, your point does not count as they clearly belong in the definition of class

@Deleted User equal in what way

There's several different ways to compare people

It is a class that you are prescribing to them. They would see class as an alien concept

At least Stephen Hawking actually contributed to society

Does that matter? That is an idealist claim to make.

Most disabled people don't do anything

But cause the family grief

Not really, it is an observation of the Amish lifestyle

I am applying a material definition to people who fit within it.

We all know what equal means, unless you're specifying a certain characteristic it's usually equality across the board that is referred to when someone espouses Egalitarianism.

@Valeska-ἑταίρα most families love their children

Materialist view vs Idealist

Disabled or not

@Deleted User then you'll agree that all human life is fundamentally equal since we all know what kind of equal we're talking about here apparently

@Monolith You are trying to falsely classify some sort of class structure within Amish society which does not exist

Their opinion as to whether or not they constitute as a class is irrelevant considering their actual material relations to the means of production.

You are using an idealist, anti-materialistic argument.

Human life isn't equal, each being is unqiue with certain talents and certain defects

Even if I concede that point, which I don't, their class still owns the means of production and they receive the entire fruit of their labor. They own the entire value of what they create

The class structure of the Amish is a single one, peasentry

The same could be said about proletarian communism

But they still participate in the economic apparatus of the state

Therefore they are simply one class within the state

They are separate from the state. Their right to religious freedom separates them from violating their religious beliefs

That is simply not the case, they have no actual autonomy, they obviously have to interact within the state economic apparatus.

I hate this month

@Monolith they actually have their own autonomy

Which their entire class does, they sell agricultural produce

They are insulated from society and the state at large. They interact with ordinary people seldomly

Goodnight everyone

From wikipedia: "The Amish are subject to sales and property taxes."

Night virgin

night

In terms of social organization they are separate from the government though

Taxes don't mean much. Every entity has to pay them in some form or another