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2019-06-25 05:05:33 UTC  

Which their entire class does, they sell agricultural produce

2019-06-25 05:06:09 UTC  

They are insulated from society and the state at large. They interact with ordinary people seldomly

2019-06-25 05:06:36 UTC  

Goodnight everyone

2019-06-25 05:06:43 UTC  

From wikipedia: "The Amish are subject to sales and property taxes."

2019-06-25 05:06:44 UTC  

Night virgin

2019-06-25 05:08:18 UTC  

night

2019-06-25 05:08:36 UTC  

In terms of social organization they are separate from the government though

2019-06-25 05:09:08 UTC  

Taxes don't mean much. Every entity has to pay them in some form or another

2019-06-25 05:09:48 UTC  

They are ultimately not independent then

2019-06-25 05:10:21 UTC  

Paying some taxes doesn't discount your independence

2019-06-25 05:10:21 UTC  

People would pay taxes in a socialist system tho?

2019-06-25 05:10:41 UTC  

Taxes aren’t inherent to the state

2019-06-25 05:10:43 UTC  

The state is the institution of organised violence which is used by the ruling class of a country to maintain the conditions of its rule, the taxes are enforced through this.

2019-06-25 05:10:52 UTC  

Any place where there is human settlement, there will be some form of taxation

2019-06-25 05:10:54 UTC  

This is what I say to all anarkiddies here

2019-06-25 05:10:54 UTC  

@im in the middle of nowhere bruh Socialism is not stateless.

2019-06-25 05:11:00 UTC  

Franco did nothing wrong

2019-06-25 05:11:05 UTC  

@Americus North Sentinel Island

2019-06-25 05:11:08 UTC  

Franco was gay

2019-06-25 05:11:22 UTC  

@Monolith communities can enforce taxes you don’t need a state to do it

2019-06-25 05:11:31 UTC  

@Deleted User yes but he killed anarchists and gommies

2019-06-25 05:11:48 UTC  

Oh you got me. 39 people don't pay taxes

2019-06-25 05:11:48 UTC  

true

2019-06-25 05:11:49 UTC  

Chad Jose vs virgin Franco

2019-06-25 05:11:52 UTC  

^

2019-06-25 05:12:31 UTC  

You don't even know if they pay taxes. It is illegal to go to the island and encounter the locals

2019-06-25 05:12:40 UTC  

Yes Jose was based

2019-06-25 05:12:41 UTC  

@Americus Technically wrong, also all of those people are still living under a state except for like that one island

2019-06-25 05:13:15 UTC  

They don't even have a conception of taxes in the first place, literally anprim paradise

2019-06-25 05:13:38 UTC  

Ooga Booga

2019-06-25 05:13:39 UTC  

You don't know that, people aren't allowed to study them

2019-06-25 05:13:43 UTC  

Technology bad

2019-06-25 05:14:23 UTC  

Annnd she ignored my point again

2019-06-25 05:14:29 UTC  

@Americus It is evident, taxes did not exist in primitive communism which is the current system they live under

2019-06-25 05:15:00 UTC  

Do you know for a fact they do not have a system of tribute?

2019-06-25 05:15:12 UTC  

That’s what I was gonna say

2019-06-25 05:15:16 UTC  

Trick question, no one does

2019-06-25 05:15:46 UTC  

Taxation:

Taxation is the portion of the social surplus accruing to the government.

2019-06-25 05:16:12 UTC  

They obviously do not have this but ok

2019-06-25 05:16:58 UTC  

Taxes are compulsory charges that you make for public expenditure

2019-06-25 05:17:15 UTC  

And in your own words government does not equal the state