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In terms of social organization they are separate from the government though
Taxes don't mean much. Every entity has to pay them in some form or another
They are ultimately not independent then
Paying some taxes doesn't discount your independence
People would pay taxes in a socialist system tho?
Taxes aren’t inherent to the state
The state is the institution of organised violence which is used by the ruling class of a country to maintain the conditions of its rule, the taxes are enforced through this.
Any place where there is human settlement, there will be some form of taxation
This is what I say to all anarkiddies here
@im in the middle of nowhere bruh Socialism is not stateless.
Franco did nothing wrong
Franco was gay
@Monolith communities can enforce taxes you don’t need a state to do it
@Deleted User yes but he killed anarchists and gommies
Oh you got me. 39 people don't pay taxes
true
Chad Jose vs virgin Franco
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You don't even know if they pay taxes. It is illegal to go to the island and encounter the locals
@Americus Technically wrong, also all of those people are still living under a state except for like that one island
They don't even have a conception of taxes in the first place, literally anprim paradise
Ooga Booga
You don't know that, people aren't allowed to study them
Technology bad
Annnd she ignored my point again
@Americus It is evident, taxes did not exist in primitive communism which is the current system they live under
Do you know for a fact they do not have a system of tribute?
That’s what I was gonna say
Trick question, no one does
Taxation:
Taxation is the portion of the social surplus accruing to the government.
They obviously do not have this but ok
Taxes are compulsory charges that you make for public expenditure
And in your own words government does not equal the state
And still, we do not know anything about their society. You are making assumptions that you cannot back up with evidence
Taxation is the portion of the social surplus accruing to the government.
Taxes are compulsory charges that you make for public expenditure.
These are not mutually exclusive.
@Americus Do they even have a government apparatus of which to have taxes collected and used? Do they have tax collectors to collect taxes? Do they have a law enforcement agency to assure taxes are collected? Do they even have a way to make any of this?
Your argument is dead.