My Wife is a PA and this is one of those topics that she is against me on. I am standing my ground though once we have a son.

^^ Wife is a nurse and we had it out about this as well. When we found out our #2 was going to be a boy, we circled back around and had the arguments again. I won and we left him uncircumcised.

Ultimately she was fully swayed when she asked a pediatrician friend who actually performs circumcisions. He told her that there is no reason for doing it unless for religious reasons or you live in the 3rd world.

I told her the same thing. They basically brain wash these medical professionals to do it for no reason other than looks and cleanliness.

It really raises my blood pressure.

Exactly. But the foreskin doesn't even separate until they're older, so there's not even a need to clean anything until he's almost in puberty.

Exactly. It is genital mutilation.

We had some heated arguments as well, it actually really put a strain on the marriage

I bet. So far she just says "We aren't having this convo right now"

Honestly, if it comes down to it, you have every right to pull the veto card. Just tell any doctor, nurse, aid, whatever that you do not consent to circumcision in any way and that if they so much as give your boy's weiner a second look, you'll sue them.

No doctor will touch him if both parents aren't in agreement.

I doubt it will go that far but I will hold that card for my check mate.

She and I just need to sit down and have the convo. It has always been off the cuff comments when a friend talks about it or something random.

Moly actually did a really good video on it, it got my wife to at least question the necessity.

Cool I will check it out.

Great video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLmU6xTdeTI

Thanks I was just looking them up on YT.

Vaccines are a whole other issue.

Vaccines are a dicey topic, am not anti-vax, but I think they give them a lot of unnecessary stuff. I don't let them do flu vaccines and other random stuff.

And not all at once.

They'll try and give them hepatitis shots minutes after the kid is born. Tell them no and that the pediatrician can give them the shot if needed.

I believe it's hepB, not sure though. But it's something that is primarily spread sexually, so it's absurd that they try and give it to newborns

Yeah I am going to make a list of the vaccines that I will allow prior to having a child.

This was one of the ways I was first red pilled was vaccines and all the chemicals in food/water/air/clothing etc

I started down a similar path lol

AJ and Red Ice were the reasons I am here. I know AJ would hate that lol

Haha, I was mostly an economic libertarian, so I was big on Molyneux, Tom Woods,etc, but I enjoyed AJ. I was a big Cantwell follower as well, and ultimately ended up getting redpilled while he was.

What was described in that article is extremely rare, but that alone is worth not having circumcision done. That is one unlucky lottery you don't want to "win."

Haha, @missliterallywho. I suppose consider it a blessing, as having the opposite problem would not be good.

@missliterallywho my wife puts a burp cloth over her chest between feedings. It’s not perfect but it cuts down significantly on the spillage.

https://www.amazon.com/Gerber-Birdseye-Flatfold-Cloth-Diapers/dp/B007VBYVVA

@The Huwhyte Ulf - VA we have three boys. all uncut. all fine. never once had any issue with it! they may not" look like dad', but who cares! Dad will talk to them about it if he ever needs to, and let them know why we didn't have that terrible thing done to them!

I feel the same way. It’s just convincing my wife to see that it’s unnecessary and cruel.

@The Huwhyte Ulf - VA show her a video of how they do it. That settled it with my wife.

If you lost a finger at the factory would you chop your sons off so he looks like dad?

There is not a single argument for it.

Hers comes from a medical perspective of it could get infected if you dont do it. I say instead of cutting some part of my son off just teach him to clean himself properly.

So much easier and less stress for the child.

@The Huwhyte Ulf - VA there is no issue with cleaning. There is no medical reason to do elective cosmetic surgery on an infants genitals. Zero stress. They self clean like female genitalia. In fact until they are older you should not even be messing around around in there. You can really hurt a little guy if you retract his for skin to clean before it separates on its own.

The American Association of Pediatrics does not recommend circumcision although they are mealy mouthed about their rejection of it. The WHO also does not recommend it. I don’t really care about either but if you need authorities to back your choice it’s out there.

@The Huwhyte Ulf - VA She is talking about smegma, I have only seen that in 3rd world patients who do not properly clean themselves. It's nearly impossible for smegma to build up if you shower regularly.