Message from @John O -

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2018-07-24 19:52:54 UTC  

With white people of course

2018-07-24 20:11:12 UTC  

I'm always suspicious of the veracity of the stories of the superiority of the white man and the savagery of the black man. The question here is, if they didn't recognize the value of gold, where did they get so much of it? They probably didn't trade it, which means they probably sunk huge amounts of man power into mines. Why would they do that if they thought it was worthless?

2018-07-24 20:14:25 UTC  

The reason I question these stories is because it's very important for us to stay grounded in reality. There's a reason why the Hoteps are laughed at by everyone, and it's not jealousy

2018-07-24 21:22:14 UTC  

Recognize is a relative term when we talk about how much value mansa musa (in this instance) found in gold. Its my belief that , in terms of the periphery of Africa, not the interior, that most of these African ideals of society and economy are simply a simulacra they produce based on interaction with the Arabs.

2018-07-24 21:24:37 UTC  

Mining is not a worthwhile operation unless you put the products of your labor towards weapons or tradeables. Why would you dedicate huge amounts of resources towards digging massive pits in the ground unless you could do something with what you pull out?

2018-07-24 21:26:01 UTC  

For the purposes of Islamic traditions that had been instilled on them. The impetus for this entire event, is once again a hajj.

2018-07-24 21:27:46 UTC  

Mali was by no means a vassal state, but I can see the enterprise of gold production to be completely developed on the idea of promoting and appeasing the ideas of piety the Mali people adopted

2018-07-24 21:28:24 UTC  

I can dig it

2018-07-24 21:31:17 UTC  

When a small portion of you on the ivory coast literally wuz kangz

2018-07-24 21:39:03 UTC  

As gay as it might sound, you can't always compare European civilization to African ones year to year. There are some quite interesting things the various super-Saharan kings came up with. The epiothian civilization for instance, they were pretty advanced for their time.

2018-07-24 21:39:32 UTC  

Absolutely

2018-07-24 21:41:10 UTC  

Africa is clearly down rn, but it absolutely had it's heyday. We shouldn't assume that white people will continue on their current trajectory. We should recognize that, even if we beat displacement, disgenics is real

2018-07-24 21:41:23 UTC  

@John O -. Makes a good point about inspecting things in an wider array, even if it feels relativist sometimes.

2018-07-25 11:50:05 UTC  

I've been finding some interesting parallels while investigating Arab civilization immediately after the conquests of Mohamed and the foundation of the Abbasid caliphate. While undoubtedly an advanced society, their rulers thought that they could benefit by importing the (((Persians))) to help them run their new state. The Arabs of course had never had a civilization at this level before and thought that the successors of Cyrus and Darius could help them engineer a better society. However after two centuries the Large Persian minority eventually overtook the majority of governorships and fractured the caliphate into it's second (Ummayid) period. Moral of the story, It's better to organically grow a state rather than looking for fast ways to advance at the cost of your ethos and people.

2018-07-25 12:00:13 UTC  

Absolutely. A similar situation is described in (I can't remember the name of the book, but it's very popular in IE), where the mechanism from which the left took power was by volunteering until the government depended on them. We also see this in the fact that a lot of our medical community is foreign. That's a huge position of influence, and if we continue to allow outsiders to scale to the upper echelons of society, we'll quickly lose control

2018-07-25 12:01:31 UTC  

Also, the tech industry, another hugely influential field

2018-07-25 12:02:02 UTC  

Same tactic the ADL used to control the FBI, Volunteering their database until the fbi got it's budget cut and had to rely on who the adl deemed a threat.

2018-07-25 12:03:33 UTC  

Providing assistance in fat times make an entity become dependent on you in lean times.

2018-07-25 12:04:14 UTC  

Right, that's exactly what I was talking about

2018-07-25 12:04:37 UTC  

That being said, we can definitely use this tactic ourselves through nice guy identitarianism.

2018-07-25 12:05:03 UTC  

I think we need significantly more members before we can do something like that

2018-07-25 12:05:07 UTC  

True

2018-07-25 12:05:49 UTC  

Or, just divert resources from activism. But this is an activist org

2018-07-25 12:06:27 UTC  

But to get back to the oriental autism, the Persian civilization has a lot to teach us, such as how a low iq majority replaced the high iq minority during the islamic revolution when the ayalollah overthrew the shah.

2018-07-25 12:07:09 UTC  

Or the various ethnic clashes perpetrated by the (((opponents))) of Cyrus the great in babylon.

2018-07-25 12:11:38 UTC  

Quick rundown of the on the Islamic revolution pls

2018-07-25 12:16:24 UTC  

>Be me 8/10 King of Kings >My dad was kind of dick to the shia in the country but w/e >Get educated in europe and bring enlightenment ideal back to Persia when I'm crowned shah >Things go pretty well, liberalize the economy, westernize the culture >Be the most western country in the middle east with a booming economy >Shia get really mad because "muh homed" >whatever dude.sand >Cia gives me a a ton of money because I support nato, and fuck up the house of saud whenever I can >Shia get really mad and overthrow me > Cia reinstated me as a puppet > Shias overthrow me again >Go into exile in America > Tfw the Ayatollah (An islamic cardinal or some shit) Immediatly instituted sharia law and shuts down all the universities and high level infrastructure I created >Mfw the high iq elites of persia flee for the west and a massive brain drain takes place > mfw the country actually accepts islam because everyone with an iq over 90 just gtfo >Die of cancer a few years later

2018-07-25 12:18:12 UTC  

This is also when the hostage crisis happened when the American consulate workers were taken hostage and carter was too much a bitch to rescue them. All the cia stuff was why they always chant death to america.

2018-07-25 12:25:39 UTC  

Oh, right. I thought you meant 10 th century or some shit

2018-07-25 12:29:40 UTC  

I hate Carter. My ancestors died digging the Panama Canal, and he just gave that shit up

2018-07-25 12:29:57 UTC  

Yeah Carter is a huge cuck

2018-09-18 03:27:17 UTC  
2018-09-18 03:38:54 UTC  

I follow Robert. Great content.

2018-09-18 03:39:11 UTC  

I found a set of like 10 books from this series https://www.amazon.com/Barbarian-Europe-Great-Ages-Man/dp/0809403803 Flipped through them at a local library clearance sale for used/donated books. Are there any particularly large or active homeschooling groups from IE that could make use of them? Seem to be some quality stuff. Also have a 4 part set on frontier life in USA (Wild West type stuff, etc.) that are leatherbound, really nice. Would like to see them put to good use.

(Change of topic but coming here reminded me to ask.)

2018-09-18 03:39:23 UTC  

Thanks for the share!

2018-09-18 03:39:47 UTC  

Reminds me of the Clovis people.

2018-09-18 03:41:32 UTC  

Europeans were in the America’s prior to the asiatic people. Solutrean theory.

2018-09-18 03:42:42 UTC  

We can even find traces of clovis dna in modern day indians. Which would posit that they crossed the land bridge after them , wiped them out and then interbred with the remnents to some degree. We wuz indians.

2018-09-18 03:49:13 UTC  

This guy covers similar topics.

2018-09-18 03:55:03 UTC  

Early american landmass pre-history is such a fascinating topic