Strawman strawman strawman....

Broken ribs are a common side affect of cpr

You’re saying that it’s unacceptable to potentially harm someone in order to save their life

Coercion, yes or no?

You are hiding behind a straw man

If you don't like a valid argument you call it a straw man lol

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It's impossible to create a strawman when sticking to the subject matter.

Or that strawman

Saying that its not on topic

Analogies aren’t strawmen

@Mattie um, no......it's not a valid argument. That's why

Analogies are useful to see logical consistency

Inaccurate analogies are, though. False comparison.

The greater good outweighs the potential costs both societally and personally

How is the CPR analogy not analogous

Here we go.....the discussion has broken down to semantics. The first step towards impasse.

Tell me how the CPR example is not analgous

Get of your high horse and answer the question which

Is not hard

@Mattie
"The greater good outweighs the potential costs both societally and personally"
So, then your AREN'T about informed consent, are you? Since this contradicts what you said earlier....

Answer the question

How is the CPR example not analogous

Stop avoiding the question

@Mattie why don't you forget about the horse and repair your contradiction?

@Say because there is no consent.

No you can be for both informed consent to reasonable people and then take away mistreated children and give them medical care when required as children can not give consent

We’re not talking about consent

We’re talking about how you have to potentially harm someone to save their lives

@Mattie please explain how one can force ANYONE to do ANYTHING?

You’re saying that we shouldn’t do CPR because someone might break a rib

@Say says you.

Jails

Are literally forcing people to stay their

Your claim is that we shouldn’t potentially harm someone to save their life

Parents are forced by law to send there a children to school

If you’re being logically consistent then you should be against CPR

And xrays

And operating on possibly malignant tumours

The person needing CPR has no capability of giving consent. Therefore you are imposing an involuntary hierarchy over them. They are no longer ethical actors, but you are their caretaker now. That is why you can do that.

And pretty much all preemptive medicine