Message from @Say

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2019-11-11 00:04:12 UTC  

@Say "You might break a few ribs while giving CPR, but it’s worth it to save the person’s life"
Please stop with the strawman. You're not a real doctor, are you?

2019-11-11 00:04:17 UTC  

Or ct or xrays either

2019-11-11 00:04:19 UTC  

I am

2019-11-11 00:04:23 UTC  

Because radiation

2019-11-11 00:04:24 UTC  

It’s not a strawman

2019-11-11 00:04:34 UTC  

Strawman strawman strawman....

2019-11-11 00:04:46 UTC  

Broken ribs are a common side affect of cpr

2019-11-11 00:04:54 UTC  

You’re saying that it’s unacceptable to potentially harm someone in order to save their life

2019-11-11 00:04:57 UTC  

Coercion, yes or no?

2019-11-11 00:05:01 UTC  

You are hiding behind a straw man

2019-11-11 00:05:19 UTC  

If you don't like a valid argument you call it a straw man lol

2019-11-11 00:05:25 UTC  

^

2019-11-11 00:05:29 UTC  

It's impossible to create a strawman when sticking to the subject matter.

2019-11-11 00:05:42 UTC  

Or that strawman

2019-11-11 00:05:53 UTC  

Saying that its not on topic

2019-11-11 00:05:54 UTC  

Analogies aren’t strawmen

2019-11-11 00:05:55 UTC  

@Mattie um, no......it's not a valid argument. That's why

2019-11-11 00:06:09 UTC  

Analogies are useful to see logical consistency

2019-11-11 00:06:28 UTC  

Inaccurate analogies are, though. False comparison.

2019-11-11 00:06:37 UTC  

The greater good outweighs the potential costs both societally and personally

2019-11-11 00:06:41 UTC  

How is the CPR analogy not analogous

2019-11-11 00:07:02 UTC  

Here we go.....the discussion has broken down to semantics. The first step towards impasse.

2019-11-11 00:07:19 UTC  

Tell me how the CPR example is not analgous

2019-11-11 00:07:23 UTC  

Get of your high horse and answer the question which

2019-11-11 00:07:30 UTC  

Is not hard

2019-11-11 00:07:52 UTC  

@Mattie
"The greater good outweighs the potential costs both societally and personally"
So, then your AREN'T about informed consent, are you? Since this contradicts what you said earlier....

2019-11-11 00:08:05 UTC  

Answer the question

2019-11-11 00:08:14 UTC  

How is the CPR example not analogous

2019-11-11 00:08:19 UTC  

Stop avoiding the question

2019-11-11 00:08:24 UTC  

@Mattie why don't you forget about the horse and repair your contradiction?

2019-11-11 00:09:05 UTC  

@Say because there is no consent.

2019-11-11 00:09:23 UTC  

No you can be for both informed consent to reasonable people and then take away mistreated children and give them medical care when required as children can not give consent

2019-11-11 00:09:25 UTC  

We’re not talking about consent

2019-11-11 00:09:53 UTC  

We’re talking about how you have to potentially harm someone to save their lives

2019-11-11 00:10:03 UTC  

@Mattie please explain how one can force ANYONE to do ANYTHING?

2019-11-11 00:10:07 UTC  

You’re saying that we shouldn’t do CPR because someone might break a rib

2019-11-11 00:10:25 UTC  

@Say says you.

2019-11-11 00:10:36 UTC  

Jails

2019-11-11 00:10:50 UTC  

Are literally forcing people to stay their

2019-11-11 00:11:04 UTC  

Your claim is that we shouldn’t potentially harm someone to save their life

2019-11-11 00:11:19 UTC  

Parents are forced by law to send there a children to school