Message from @Virgil
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@Bjorn - MD I think I might lay off for a bit, they have come to realisations which will carry them along the way. I may save the rest for when we go to Europe, and they can see what multiple cultures in one place can do to a legendary nation, I'll try to safely nudge them after that, after our trip
Pssshhhh... Europe'll do the job for you.
It's the ultimate red-pill experience to be honest
I suppose it is easier to see the truth than to just hear it
Small steps at a time
@Procella Eques Dumb wyte man...qweenz be rizin
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/black-women-become-most-educated-group-in-us-a7063361.html
@Bjorn - MD I always figured that in the realm of politics, facts supplement feelings. Not vice-versa.
I'm sure they don't mention affirmative action and lower standards being a reason why black women "become most educated group in US" <:really:453005408064241674>
Most educated doesn’t mean smartest
Colleges love to give them free rides
Because they’re black and a woman
And typically more motivated than their male counterparts
Black people are like lions. Male lion lays around all day and female lions go on the hunt
@Bjorn - MD sometimes you just have to let people come to the conclusion themselves. Someone I know wasn’t even very politically involved - until they went to Toronto and were shocked, because they expected to see a European city. Now they’re strongly considering joining IE
(there are other reasons, but that was the “oh s**t” moment)
Similar story with my dad. He’s actually been very receptive to our debates, but all it’s really done is made him disillusioned with politics (he used to be an old-school, JFK-type Democrat.) The biggest breakthroughs are when he sends me something with a comment like “this is really concerning”
yes, yes it is concerning.
@Asatru Artist - MD @Procella Eques No need to explain it away, but that statistic is outright bullshit
Like, they just made it up
It's based on a real statistic, but they took it to a totally different conclusion
I don't remember what the original statistic was, but it was something irrelevant
black women are enrolled the most (by percentage)
but they're definitely not the most educated
and they don't finish _close_ to the same rate as others
@The Eternal Anglo is she otherwise conservative? What doesn't she agree on exactly?
Show her a world iq map
@Salo Saloson Ya, that's what it was
@TV She's based on a lot of the good areas, like LGBT, marriage, values, against mindless dating, clubs, etc. It's the race, culture, and future of America I'm having problems with still. Like pitbulls are dangerous because of bad owners, people are dumber because of their upbringing and blacks are jailed more because Whites and asians have all the money and Blacks don't, so they can't bribe themselves out of jail
It doesn't matter if she says she agrees or not. She may never admit it, but the more red pills you drop over time, the more she'll come to see that you're right. One day, out of nowhere, she'll start talking like she's Jared Taylor and she'll think she came to those conclusions on her own
@TV Oh I've been laying the groundwork for over a year, it's all coming down to this up-coming Paris vacation. fingers crossed!
Interestingly, the percentage enrolled in college increases if a group of people stays in college longer. So, someone who graduated in 1 year is "less educated" than someone who graduated in 6 years.
Also you should sneak some podcasts and youtube videos in when she's around you. Sometimes hearing other people say the same things helps. Red Ice is good because there's other women on the show.
@TV So I should probably have Lana playing while she's around yeah? Sounds good man
@Virgil Agreed (facts supplement, or rather, justify and reinforce feelings).
@Alex Kolchak - NY Very true. Ultimately, even if you are actively attempting to influence someone's views, you're ultimately only going to be successful if they at least *feel* that they've independently arrived at whichever conclusion they end up drawing.
@TV @Bjorn - MD @Alex Kolchak - NY Thank you for all your advice, by the way
@The Eternal Anglo No schweat, brudda!
<:whitepill:439924104406106113> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RgwywCWzcc?vq=hd1080
no problem, glad to help. Maybe we could have a “rhetorical tactics” guide?
Glad to help.
I think Frog Juice on Twitter has some good threads about how to explain this stuff to people