The string is a lot tougher than it looks

tricep mostly @Tero

but also my back

imagine doing that all day in a battle
i bet mongols were ripped bro

@MountainMan work dem arm muscles boi

kek

mongol bows were pretty low poundage weren't they?

but that might be because I also trained back and triceps that day <:GWcorbinTopKek:384871333705678868>

so I dunno

english longbowmen would have been ripped though

i wanna say 60 pound

@gary underwood gotta prepare for the rape somehow <:kek:590371888480387073>

OwO

@gary underwood imo they were prolly pretty light, because lightly armoured adversaries, needing to use it on a horse, etc.

english peasants were required to train archery every sunday after church so when they get old enough they can shoot a longbow in battle

srs?

that's pretty badass if true

That's dank af

https://www.jstor.org/stable/40960933?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Mandatory archery

That's how they got to be so based

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when civVI doesnt have longbowmen as english special units anymore <:pepehands:378719408367075333>

i tried looking into the mongol bows but i got conflicting results, most of what i saw was over 100 lb, and some as high as 180 lb. but i didnt do enough research to confirm

@gary underwood It was actually more like 70lbs

Those numbers came from people ignoring that the materials degraded over centuries of not being used

i saw one thing that said they carried two bows, and one was stronger

180lb would make them nearly twice as strong as english archers

seems unlikely

chinks not exactly big guys

if those numbers came from degraded materials then why would they be less? i dont get it

past a certain point dont recurv bows become easier to hold?

https://twitter.com/spikedonline/status/1178625615748050945

we need to ban the competition so only communism can win

tony fucking blair

Degraded materials stiffen, properly maintained one will be an easier draw. There are differences in shooting methodology which would allow the mongols to use fairly heavy draw bows though. Thumb rings help a lot and move the limit from grip to arm strength.

```The Mongol bow is not as large and long as the English one, but it is vastly more powerful. The draw weight of an English longbow averages around 70-80 pounds, whereas the Old Mongol bow had a pull that, according to George Vernadsky, averaged at around 166 pounds. Chambers states that the pull varied from 100 to 160 pounds. This seeming discrepancy certainly reflects the fact that draw weight varied with the strength of the user, and with what use the bow had been made for. As could be expected, there was a considerable difference in shooting range. Whereas the English longbow could shoot at distances up to 250 yards or around 228 meters, the Mongol counterpart can hit its target at 350 yards or 320 meters and, if the archer is well trained for the task, even beyond that. ```

that's what one thing i found

yeah i dont know, every source i look at gives a different figure

the average is around 100 though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja8cvb2AhIk