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@Sam Anderson which involved quite a bit of labor. But if you're making a "they did it without welfare" type point, then okay.
It’s really not. Latvia and Estonia are easily some of the wealthier Eastern European countries
Why haven't the Eastern European countries pulled themselves out of poverty? @Jacob Any ideas?
I’m gonna import flour from the Vatican
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN They came over to do their own thing really. They did not come to be the next generation of HVAC guys, they came to take land for their own people.
@Asatru Artist - MD A massive reason for that is brain drain. Part of the reason I'm so anti-immigration is because it harms my ancestral homeland.
Maybe it's harder for non-coastal cities to be self-sustaining
@Sam Anderson Okay, so you cite a modern trade. Were none of the British/Irish colonists the 1700s equivalent: blacksmith, cobbler, cooper?
I have like. No idea what Eastern European culture is like, really. At a micro level. I made pierogis once. They’re based.
I don't blame people for TRYING to find economically better situation. Whether they should be ALLOWED to by other countries, is, of course, a different situation.
People will always try to do what's best for themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/user/NocturnoPlays Eastern europe
No matter the consequences.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN They came to make their own societies. Its not like they came to try an monopolize steel while living with Native Americans who did not have it. They came to take the land and make their own societies.
But I don’t wanna go to Kiev
I don’t speak a word of Ukrainian
@Sam Anderson Okay, there is a distinction with the depopulated / uncivilized land. I just have some sympathy for former Warsaw pact countries, being whites, and them having lived under Communism.
Huh
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN To be honest, I do have a bit against it
Poland would be great if no one left
Yeah there's something soul-hollowing about abandoning your nation
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN The initial model of the EU before it tried to civilize the whole world, was to uplift poor European countries. This worked before this whole GloboHomo trend of bringing in the Global South because we failed to civilize them via colonialism.
@Jacob The EU and UK are responsible for facilitating it. Like the US is responsible for permitting Mestizo invasion (permitting by not stopping it).
partially, yes
If European emigrants would genetically be predisposed to low ethnocentrism why is it that white Americans lean more "racist" than say, the English, even the English in London
Because we are exposed to "Diversity"...
because racism as a concept is very hypocritical and wasn't really a concept until like 1948
@Ald I think England has an aristocratic class that has traditionally held the reigns of power and it is that class that is held captive to cultural marxism.
I'm just addressing something that was said in regards to desirability of Euro immigration
It's a vulnerability of giving responsibility of managing your country up to an elite class
UK needs to deport their "royals", esp the race mixing redhead that isn't even royal...
@Ald Yeah just mentioning a theory
Well we have about 200 million descendants of Europeans who decided to leave and they generally are not less nationalistic than the population that remained where they came from
although now that I think about it, the same theory doesn't explain Sweden's situation I think, right? I'm not familiar if with Sweden had an aristocratic class
@ThisIsChris There is a royal family
That's the image of a family that is like a cross to a vampire for the left
That family!
The kinds of emigrants from Europe today are more on the cosmopolitan side. They're going where the money is and tend towards neoliberalism. The Europeans who came here centuries ago were ordinary people, albeit a bit more individualistic on average