Message from @Alex Kolchak - NY

Discord ID: 503602751238963210


2018-10-21 15:54:43 UTC  

most of INDIA doesn't the infrastructure to sanitize, most people in that nation don't even own a water-tap

2018-10-21 15:55:06 UTC  

And I heard that from the mouth of some of their social leaders

2018-10-21 15:55:09 UTC  

we have to drive the public or at least policy makers cast aside the myth of boasian anthropology in favor of a true racialist viewpoint set forth by Grant and Stoddard

2018-10-21 16:04:37 UTC  

also apparently Ross Douthat supports repealing the 17th Amendment (direct election of senators)

2018-10-21 16:04:42 UTC  

based and redpilled

2018-10-21 16:07:00 UTC  

How else would it be done? By electoral college on a state level?

2018-10-21 16:08:34 UTC  

Nomination or oligarchic selection I assume

2018-10-21 16:10:36 UTC  

I want a more elitist form of government, akin to the original American republic. A senate that can ignore the will of the common voter on occasion is important, or else we'll never fix issues like debt and healthcare

2018-10-21 16:10:39 UTC  

before it was state legislatures

2018-10-21 16:11:31 UTC  

house reps were elected by the state's population, but senators were elected by state legislatures

2018-10-21 16:12:43 UTC  

and of course, the voting population itself was pretty different too...

2018-10-21 16:13:36 UTC  

it's better than what we have now

2018-10-21 16:13:42 UTC  

which is direct election of both

2018-10-21 16:13:42 UTC  

I like it

2018-10-21 16:14:54 UTC  

There is still PR pressure from the public. Republican establishment types support the agenda now

2018-10-21 16:16:31 UTC  

>have awful shitty elite
>have had that since early 20th century
>has only been a matter of how bad they are
>wants a more elitist form of government

2018-10-21 16:16:33 UTC  

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2018-10-21 16:16:47 UTC  

oof

2018-10-21 16:17:03 UTC  

We can still b u l l y them

2018-10-21 16:17:16 UTC  

that's why I qualified my argument with the fact that the population was different

2018-10-21 16:17:32 UTC  

that would never work now, and it's good that populists are able to benefit from direct elections

2018-10-21 16:17:53 UTC  

Im pretty sure you get v& and shutdown if you try to bully them

2018-10-21 16:20:22 UTC  

populists' leveraging of direct elections is a reaction to a broken system

2018-10-21 16:20:42 UTC  

we're well past the point of managed, representative democracy, the way it was originally envisioned

2018-10-21 16:21:45 UTC  

but if we were still a serious country, I'd be more comfortable with a less directly-democratic system

2018-10-21 16:23:48 UTC  

of course. everything else is of secondary concern for now

2018-10-21 16:25:45 UTC  

besides, just like in the socialism-libertarianism debate, both direct democracy and illiberal democracy require a high level of trust that your fellow citizens/the elites aren't going to screw you over

2018-10-21 16:26:47 UTC  

and we all know what ruins that societal trust

2018-10-21 16:26:51 UTC  

>elites
>aren't going to screw you over

2018-10-21 16:28:34 UTC  

(((elites)))

2018-10-21 16:28:35 UTC  

I'm talking about people who achieve success and influence in society, not (((elites)))

2018-10-21 16:28:40 UTC  

but fair point

2018-10-21 16:30:02 UTC  

the English, for a long time, had the concept of "noblesse oblige" - basically nobility with obligations to society

2018-10-21 16:30:47 UTC  

i.e. your higher status means you're responsible for giving back, be it through charity, patronage, serving in the military, whatever

2018-10-21 16:30:58 UTC  

if I achieved success & influence in society, as a normie, I would be extremely hesitant to enter politics if I was to do anything short of further attempting to disenfranchise whites

2018-10-21 16:31:33 UTC  

I understand your point I dont really think itll be valid for the mainstream for a long time though

2018-10-21 16:31:55 UTC  

Society, culture, governance, etc have to be molded to the point where that would work well.

2018-10-21 16:32:02 UTC  

you're right - we're in an abnormal situation right now and will be for a while

2018-10-21 16:32:41 UTC  

and those who we trusted to steward society have failed horribly or are actively working against us

2018-10-21 16:34:04 UTC  

so now it's us ordinary people who have to make some aggressive course corrections

2018-10-21 16:34:42 UTC  

with the usual caveats - peacefully, lawfully, in Minecraft, etc. <:4dchess:439923932062154782>