Message from @Scipio Americanus

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2018-06-17 04:57:12 UTC  

North Korea is shit too but they still have the ability to kill millions of shit pops off.

2018-06-17 04:57:12 UTC  

tho

2018-06-17 04:57:17 UTC  

i think i'm more tipsy

2018-06-17 04:57:22 UTC  

but damn lol

2018-06-17 04:57:37 UTC  

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

2018-06-17 04:58:33 UTC  

whataup

2018-06-17 04:59:37 UTC  

yep youre fucked up

2018-06-17 05:08:16 UTC  

@radeon
That's exactly the type of thinking that les to Vietnam

2018-06-17 05:08:45 UTC  

vietnam was 100% bureaucracy we could have easily won it if not for the pussy footing around

2018-06-17 05:08:47 UTC  

Keep underestimating your opponents and soon you end up fucked

2018-06-17 05:10:00 UTC  

Yeah like giving soldiers the wrong fucking bullets and not showing them how to clean their guns.

2018-06-17 05:14:20 UTC  

Im uniformed on this, why was the draft necessary for Vietnam? just occurred to me I have never questioned that.

2018-06-17 05:16:14 UTC  

nobody would volunteer

2018-06-17 05:16:25 UTC  

the war was unpopular

2018-06-17 05:16:46 UTC  

Eek, then why were we I it?

2018-06-17 05:17:05 UTC  

Like that's a bad fucking sign

2018-06-17 05:17:53 UTC  

Won against guerrilla? Not very likely, despite technological supremacy.

2018-06-17 05:18:12 UTC  

I guess I just wish we could not have to use draft for proxy wars if at all possible

2018-06-17 05:18:13 UTC  

because we couldn't let the communists gain a greater foothold in SE asia

2018-06-17 05:18:39 UTC  

south korea, the philippines, japan etc US allies are right there

2018-06-17 05:18:41 UTC  

Without a fight anyway

2018-06-17 05:20:04 UTC  

yep

2018-06-17 05:20:10 UTC  

and it semi-worked in korea

2018-06-17 05:20:53 UTC  

Oh ya, we didn't want Korea to happen in veitnam, explains the pussy footing

2018-06-17 05:22:22 UTC  

Korea and Vietnam are two very different stories. One was an enemy trying to actually fight in the open other was a hide&seek affair.

2018-06-17 05:22:55 UTC  

I understand that at least

2018-06-17 05:23:36 UTC  

Grand stragtic level is what I was referring to

2018-06-17 05:23:43 UTC  

jungle warfare is literally the worst

2018-06-17 05:24:03 UTC  

Vietnam had a lot more in common with Afghanistan than with Korea.

2018-06-17 05:24:29 UTC  

Eh Urban might compete for the worst

2018-06-17 05:24:57 UTC  

For one, support of the local populace in warzones was nearly irrelevant in Korea while in Vietnam it mattered a whole lot.

2018-06-17 05:25:05 UTC  

@Fergazar thats probably true

2018-06-17 05:25:51 UTC  

jungles provide little or no cover and are far harder to navigate than urban

2018-06-17 05:26:33 UTC  

Depends on the city

2018-06-17 05:26:44 UTC  

room to room fighting sucks but getting shot at without being able to see the enemy or even get behind something stronger than a fallen log is worse

2018-06-17 05:26:49 UTC  

Idk, urban setting is pretty atrocious to navigate in as well once the initial destruction of the buildings happens.

2018-06-17 05:27:09 UTC  

In addition, citys are hard because of how 3d they are

2018-06-17 05:27:11 UTC  

also, few or no roads.

2018-06-17 05:27:32 UTC  

resupply in the jungle is virtually impossible

2018-06-17 05:27:39 UTC  

its also very easy to hide AA in a jungle

2018-06-17 05:27:49 UTC  

Roads are death traps