by contrast the M4 carbine was adopted in 1994 and M16's are rare outside of the marines

Again, I'm extremely confident they would lose, but not before they take a lot of people with them.

i think i might be drumk lol

hell they still have tokarevs in inventory

I get it man lol

3/4 of a litre of rum

i don't think i'm drunk

North Korea is shit too but they still have the ability to kill millions of shit pops off.

tho

i think i'm more tipsy

but damn lol

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

whataup

yep youre fucked up

@radeon
That's exactly the type of thinking that les to Vietnam

vietnam was 100% bureaucracy we could have easily won it if not for the pussy footing around

Keep underestimating your opponents and soon you end up fucked

Yeah like giving soldiers the wrong fucking bullets and not showing them how to clean their guns.

Im uniformed on this, why was the draft necessary for Vietnam? just occurred to me I have never questioned that.

nobody would volunteer

the war was unpopular

Eek, then why were we I it?

Like that's a bad fucking sign

Won against guerrilla? Not very likely, despite technological supremacy.

I guess I just wish we could not have to use draft for proxy wars if at all possible

because we couldn't let the communists gain a greater foothold in SE asia

south korea, the philippines, japan etc US allies are right there

Without a fight anyway

yep

and it semi-worked in korea

Oh ya, we didn't want Korea to happen in veitnam, explains the pussy footing

Korea and Vietnam are two very different stories. One was an enemy trying to actually fight in the open other was a hide&seek affair.

I understand that at least

Grand stragtic level is what I was referring to

jungle warfare is literally the worst

Vietnam had a lot more in common with Afghanistan than with Korea.

Eh Urban might compete for the worst

For one, support of the local populace in warzones was nearly irrelevant in Korea while in Vietnam it mattered a whole lot.

@Fergazar thats probably true

jungles provide little or no cover and are far harder to navigate than urban

Depends on the city