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Do you have serious theological convictions, or are you just Lutheran nominally?
I have what I think to be legitimate disagreements against the Catholic church
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Catholics
I understand.
What are your reasons for accepting Lutheranism over Catholicism
One thing is that Catholicism says you need good works or penance to get into heaven
I think good works should be encouraged but when Jesus died on the cross, that's what saved us
Catholics do not deny the necessity of belief in Jesus for salvation.
Or really what role works play in salvation.
The fundamental disagreement is that you believe that those who are elect are elect from the moment of regeneration to salvation.
A Catholic holds that those who are elect can lose their salvation by mortal sin
I would quote Ephesians 2:8,9, I think that the only way you could lose salvation is turning away from God
Is mortal sin not turning from God?
If we sin we ask for forgiveness
I see, so you would have to have those sins forgiven before being able to once again attain salvation
Is this your view?
Because if it is, that is the Catholic position.
Well, you have to be a virtuous person in addition to having faith to be saved
We both agreed you cannot turn away from God an be saved
Therefore you must be virtuous to be saved.
This necessarily includes doing the will of the Father
Matthew 7:21
He who enters the kingdom of heaven is he who does the will of the Father
Good works should be encouraged, but the Bible says that it is by grace that you have been saved, not works
fellas what order should i read the bible in
first timer
Read the Talmud
Joking aside, just start with the old testament and go to the new testament after
hmm ok
i heard youre not supposed to just read it cover to cover though
That means that you should understand what it's trying to say rather than just reading it as fast as you can
I don't want to read the old testament
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The Bible isn't 1 book, It's 66 books in one cover. Focus on reading and understanding (not just running your eyeballs over the words) one book at a time, starting with Genesis.
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