i want to hear a case against them

Bruh Google it, they're been completely discredited. They're as scientific as Facebook quizzes.

No, I'm an INTJ and feel special. *Let me have that*

@missliterallywho >google it

ENFPgang

Personality traits have proven to be consistent and important factors in a variety of externalizing behaviors including addiction, aggression, and antisocial behavior. Given the comorbidity of these behaviors with pathological gambling (PG), it is important to test the degree to which PG shares these trait correlates. In a large community sample of regular gamblers (N=354; 111 with diagnoses of pathological gambling), the relations between measures of two major models of personality – Big Three and Big Five – were examined in relation to PG symptoms derived from a semi-structured diagnostic interview. Across measures, traits related to the experience of strong negative emotions were the most consistent correlates of PG, regardless of whether they were analyzed using bivariate or multivariate analyses. In several instances, however, the relations between personality and PG were moderated by demographic variable such as gender, race, and age. It will be important for future empirical work of this nature to pay closer attention to potentially important moderators of these relations.

INTERESTING.

people argue about this all the time though

Personality tests tell you what you want to hear about yourself in the moment in which you take the test.

and it seems like the best argument goes like "these tests basically just repeat what you tell them"

but what if you take it on a regular basis?

won't this account for the problem?

There is objectively no scientific way to measure "personality"

MBTI is real just like polling and polygraphs and democracy.

^ and rape accusations

I can imagine many ways to objectively quantify personality traits

@missliterallywho well what about intraversion/extraversion.

Simply asking people about themselves is one

that seems like it's pretty well-documented

In the end something is scientifically valid if it comports with reality and is predictive

@Ald

I'm going to make a personality test that determines how fake and gay you think personality tests are.

Which clinical psychologists mostly think big 5 is

If the only way to test it is by asking the (biased) bearer of said trait.... <:really:453005408064241674>

@missliterallywho you're a smart lady we should get together sometime

Why would people get results they don't like then

...

@missliterallywho what do you think of meditation?

and emotional intelligence?

What about it?

I guess they never miss, huh?

@missliterallywho i actually looked into this

there are some interesting studies regarding meditation

and it's benefits

@YourFundamentalTheorum meditation was proven wrong

people who regularly meditate are in general much more accurate at predicting emotions

based on eyes only

@Logan sauce

@YourFundamentalTheorum yes

meditation is like a thousand year tradition

Marcus Aurelius would have some words to say about this lol

Marcus Aurelius was chad