Message from @Kingfish
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Because it works
Of course that doesn't mean abandon our principles and cuck to them but tbh take what we can get for now
They won using that strategy
Incrementalism has its merits.
We can’t go around preaching racialism when we have five other steps to get first imo
IE is part of the broader populist revolt against globalism, which includes civic nationalists.
Depends on what you define as “we”
There need to be people telling the truth about forbidden topics.
Racialism should be preached for those who can be convinced. That doesn't mean other issues aren't talked about simultaneously
Might be useful https://youtu.be/JY5t6iUzajk
Trump calling out the fallen never-Trumpers, just like Jazzhands said he needed to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=demF6H-TNCE
I agree there does. I just don’t know if we should be spearheading it if we want to progress further into relevancy and support
I guess it comes down to what we want to be
If we want to truly become the face of American nationalism it’s a bad idea
This is an issue as old as the movement. Mainstreaming of this kind has never worked
Bringing us to them rather than them to us
@Jacob the radical vanguard will always be there as long as Trump keeps them on YouTube and Twitter.
I don't want to be the radical vanguard aa much as I want to be in power
It's just weak
If we want to be thought leaders and agitators for a more pro white push I’ll concede that’s how it’s done
WN has never worked.
It was a couple years ago
Trumpism has been better for White people than WN.
@Reinhard Wolff 100%
@Reinhard Wolff
"There need to be people telling the truth about forbidden topics."
That's what I'm saying. If we don't have guys who are more explicit (keeping optics in mind, of course), then by the time civnats are "ready" to go further right, they'll have no where to go. That's why we need guys on multiple parts of the spectrum. One thing that James Allsup did great was he was a bridge between more moderate civnats and us. He had one focus that he did really well.
In mainstreaming it's about who's moving for who. Trumpism has brought the mainstream a little closer to us
That was the victory of it. Not us cucking
@Logan You can help out the radical vanguard (us) on the down low while publicly being a part of your local Republican Party, which it sounds like you're already doing
One of the journos pressed Trump on social media censorship. His campaign manager knows how important this issue was to 2016 going off well but I wonder if Trump will actually take action in time.
@Jacob the thing I like about IE is that a few personalities (just Patrick right now really) are put out there and the rest of people use it like a secret society to stay centered. Secret society may not convey the right meaning but I like it.
Yes, injecting a sense of racial/ethnic understanding into Trumpism should be the goal of the dissident right rather than conceiving of ourselves as quarantined thought criminals in the WN ghetto.
That makes sense. I wish I personally could be more open, but I also know I need to be strategic about all of this. My ideal situation would be if I could get a job with low dox risk so I could do a lot of activism without worrying about the consequences. But it's great that as long as I do have consequences to worry about, this organization has something to do for people at all different comfort levels.
I'm a true centrist. I agree a bit with the left, a bit with the right.
It sounds like I'm memeing, but that's honestly correct. Immigration is really the only issue I'm "hardline" on.
Trumpism is the best vehicle by which we can smash globalism, the media, the Left, etc.—viewing ourselves outside of it, or opposed to it, is a path to irrelevancy.
@Jacob have you been to your GOP office? They are hiring staffers for representatives to DC.
Many pro-White policies can be enacted implicitly.
That’s what I’m saying
Still, there needs to be people telling the truth.