Message from Josh M. -OH in Nice Respectable People Group #general

2018-11-11 21:51:54 UTC  


2018-11-11 21:52:16 UTC  

It has to be voluntary.

2018-11-11 21:52:24 UTC  

lol why?

2018-11-11 21:52:37 UTC  

Instead we’re friggin voting to give felons the right to vote again

2018-11-11 21:52:47 UTC  

At least in Florida

2018-11-11 21:52:48 UTC  

Or else it’s like “muh oppression”

2018-11-11 21:52:50 UTC  

Sex has to be voluntary, too, but that doesn't stop rapists

2018-11-11 21:53:07 UTC  

@Sam Anderson so did we

2018-11-11 21:53:45 UTC  

It is oppression. Eugenics argument is based solely on the fact that it's the sole cause of criminality. This obviously not true.

2018-11-11 21:54:59 UTC  

@Josh M. -OH Absolutely no one is saying that genetics are "solely" the cause

2018-11-11 21:55:09 UTC  

It doesn't have to prevent 100% of cases of criminality to be worth the effort

2018-11-11 21:55:16 UTC  

The solution treats it that way

2018-11-11 21:55:40 UTC  

I mean... I guess you could say the same thing about any solution

2018-11-11 21:55:47 UTC  

What is the genetic factor that contributes to criminality?

2018-11-11 21:56:00 UTC  

We went from haircuts and shampoo to animal testing to eugenics in like 15 minutes lol

2018-11-11 21:56:11 UTC  

Monoamine Oxidase 2 Repeat Allele @Josh M. -OH

2018-11-11 21:56:31 UTC  

There's probably other alleles that haven't been discovered yet

2018-11-11 21:57:01 UTC  

@VinceChaos it’s literally all my fault

2018-11-11 21:57:01 UTC  

@Jacobare the people who have this gene that dont commit crime?

2018-11-11 21:57:28 UTC  

Yes, because, like we said, no one is saying genetics are the only factor

2018-11-11 21:57:34 UTC  

We're heading towards genetic Minority Report.

2018-11-11 21:57:41 UTC  

@Josh M. -OH Not valid. It's like saying, there are lots of black people who don't commit crime, therefore a white society wouldn't be safer.

2018-11-11 21:57:42 UTC  

Then I thank you I think it’s awesome 😆@Grossly Incandescent

2018-11-11 21:58:23 UTC  

Honestly, "we're heading towards" is a pretty bad argument against anything.

2018-11-11 21:58:29 UTC  

@sigruna14sure but we're trying to boil it down to a single factor. It's the individual vs demographic argument again.

2018-11-11 21:58:44 UTC  

@Josh M. -OH Are we? I'm not. Nobody I know is.

2018-11-11 21:58:48 UTC  

Same reason I don't like the "first step to bestiality" argument against gay marriage

2018-11-11 21:59:05 UTC  

In all fairness pretty much every issue we’ve discussed here would solve itself if we had sovereignty over our nation and it’s culture

2018-11-11 21:59:10 UTC  

For eugenics? That's what we were talking about.

2018-11-11 21:59:30 UTC  

There is no single factor that causes almost anything. Doesn't mean there aren't a number of contributing factors you can't mitigate to reduce incidence.

2018-11-11 22:00:04 UTC  

@sigruna14ok then we have to define what the acceptable risks are.

2018-11-11 22:00:09 UTC  

It's like saying, not wearing your seatbelt isn't the only factor that contributes to dying in a car crash, therefore might as well not wear one.

2018-11-11 22:01:02 UTC  

@sigruna14i understand your point but seatbelts have a wealth of data to support their efficacy.

2018-11-11 22:01:38 UTC  

We should just banish them to an island.

2018-11-11 22:01:51 UTC  

And then film all the antics

2018-11-11 22:02:03 UTC  

And put it on pay per view

2018-11-11 22:02:07 UTC  

How’s the snow, DTR guys?

2018-11-11 22:02:13 UTC  

Hubby happy,ordered a newer hat and came in just in time. Not like the original but still nice

2018-11-11 22:02:20 UTC  

I'm not interested in getting into a discussion about what we should do with criminals lol. Only point I was interested in making was "it's not the only factor, therefore it doesn't matter" isn't a valid argument.

2018-11-11 22:02:43 UTC  

Not like I’m gonna try to so damn hard to rehab them but what is the rate now for certain types of criminals? What if you commit one murder? That’s enough to warrant sterilization? Not so sure @Jacob

2018-11-11 22:02:52 UTC  

no idea