Message from @Jacob
Discord ID: 513052908242206737
Allsup is growing stronger as our enemies continue to mutate
https://youtu.be/MjhHhmUMWeI
That is definitely a mutation...
Chaos daemons are real
**What are some measurements that indicate IE's importance and influence?**
We have about 800 dues-paying members I think.
We have 30k followers on Twitter.
DtR got 550 likes on Twitter.
The latest episode of Identitarian Action has 916 youtube views in about a day's time.
Who are people we can compare with?
Mike Cernovich has 453k followers on Twitter.
His most popular tweet in the past hour has about 200 likes
Jazzhands mcfeels has 25k followers on twitter
His Nov14th tweet on Trump-Antifa got 814 likes on Twitter
Nick Fuentes has 30k followers on twitter
His most recent broadcast has 5k views on youtube in the past 18 hours
His tweet from 6 hours ago has 600 likes on twitter
This bring back the whole “they are gonna call you a Nazi anyways” bit. That doesnt mean put on some armbands and start goosestepping. It means be so clean cut and clearly not Nazis that the term loses its edge.
Having our name being very honest and frank about who we are is a good thing
It’s respectable
We’re not trying to be sly, we have nothing to hide or be ashamed of
White Identity is ok.
@missliterallywho White Nationalist is a better term than Neo nazi or White Supremacist. But only a bit, the issue isn't so much the term itself, rather the people associated with it. The term White Nationalist emerged as 1.0 was trying to present something of a better image in the 90's, however it failed and a lot of spergs started using the term, ruining it for everybody else.
@⚡Clark⚡ How is a name like the American Identity Society a dishonest ? We're American based, we believe in Identity and we're a society.
If anything it's a bit less esoteric
Because American Identity isn’t explicitly white anymore
“They’re an American group that only take whites? Lol closet racists”
Our message and mission is simple. Advocate for white Identity
Good morning, fellow Rocky Mountain Republicans
@missliterallywho dude if you think that's bad, I had a class reading that said disability is not bad, it's a beautiful part of the human experience that contributes to diversity
@⚡Clark⚡ American race blind civic nationalism is a late 20th century concept, that would,be completely alien to most Americans throughout 90% of American history. It's an aesthetic change not idealogical. Good understandable and relatable aesthetics are essential for any political movement or organization
@Virgil but it’s not alien to the current state, which is what is relevant. Our impact that we have, and our efforts to change the discourse about white Identity would be severely handicapped if we were vague in our name.
Changing our name at this point I disagree with immensely. We’re established at the level of causing international outrage as “Identity Evropa” with the Mexican consulate thing like Mrs said. IE has heft. Changing our name isn’t a good call imo
@ThisIsChris It's actually surprising how little people care. Everyone who knows me well knows what I believe and I don't get a lot of push back.
You would be sacrificing the zing of our organization to be more palatable in an area that shouldn’t b compromised
People would see past the name change
No one is gonna say "oh Identity America? ya they're super moderate unlike that evropa group that has nothing to do with them"
Exactly. It would only be seen as cucking, and not in a good optics way. If you change your name to a term that’s civic nationalist, what do you even stand for?
When IE first came out, there were plenty of articles identifying us as the successor of National Youth Front. They don't talk about it anymore because they have better things to smear us with, but it's not a secret that we came out of NYF. Anyone can find this information on Google.
I already decided, if we change our name to Identity America, I am photoshipping Patrick's face in every fortnite dance in history.
I'm not messing around.
So you already did it once lol?
Lol. "once"
This is how you get stuff done, gentlemen.
@⚡Clark⚡ It isn't vague though, if anything it's less vague than Identity Evropa.
Europe is pretty specific. America is a continent
What is vague about Identity Evropa? Literally just a fancy way of sayin Identity white people @Virgil
How is a civic nationalist term less vague?
@Virgil I get that WN 1.0 sullied the term in the 90s. My point was that I had no knowledge of that when I entered the movement, so the term was not sullied to me. I can't be the only person for whom this is true. Not saying we should call ourselves WN, just that to a lot of young normies the term doesn't invoke the images it does to older people and political obsessives like us and hardcore leftists.
I'm in my public speaking class right now and this white girl is talking about how important black women empowerment is
There's nothing civic nationalist about saying "American Identity"
Americans had a unique identity rooted in European values up until WWII
Most people don't know that