Message from @Alexander Pechorin
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Which is why they should be forced to give something back
That's why they hire illegals for $3/h to work the farms
Lobbying has stupid high ROI
How much should they “give back?” What did they “take” to begin with?
My company pays millions in taxes every year as it is.
We hav a 500k bill coming up in December just because of the inventory we have on shelf.
You're subsidizing larger businesses because they got to the top through shady means, and then used their influence to screw you
I think I’m subsidizing browns mostly.
That too
There's more than 1 problem in America
They use the power of the state to provide security to protect capital and to help them build distribution networks. They would have nothing without the state. They should give back whatever is necessary to ensure a good standard of living for the workers while still keeping the business productive.
Getting rid of browns doesn't solve everything
Employing people now is expensive. It costs me so much money to hire someone.
There's a reason Amazon exists in the US and not in Somalia. The state here is better.
Before we even discuss their salary.
All because of the regulatory climate.
Because you're competing with people who hire illegals, who lobbied the government for their ability to do so, to gain advantage over your business
I'm not a full commie who is gonna say that corporations commit theft or whatever. Plenty of businessmen are good guys.
I would rather take away their right to lobby than regulate myself even more.
Regulations on hiring illegals have hidden implications
We were sued once by the state because we accidentally hired one who had all the valid paperwork and passed a background check.
I agree — don;t hire them. But law has unintended consequences.
It’s not a magical wand.
And before I’m criticized for hiring a Mexican, the state requires we are diverse.
Or else we get sued....
They got that right first. And they got that right because they grew up in unfettered capitalism, and amassed so much wealth that they were able to BUY THE GOVERNMENT
@Virgil Exactly.
How can you purchase government pull in the economy if they have no power to exercise control over it to begin with?
Money is power
If you have enough money, you buy power
They do have power to exercise it unless we go full ancap
Interesting debate, of course. But please do understand that for every law, there is often an unintended consequence.
I wish it were a magic wand.
And that all we need to do is pass X law to control bad behavior.
That doesn't mean that lawlessness is better. "Why even try?"
I haven’t called for that.
we should do isidewith
it'll be fun
I’d enjoy that.
This debate is about unfettered Capitalism
Capitalism does indeed still have laws.