It all started with cheap Chinese labor 🚂 *toot toot*

@Nemets it’s a shame we are relearning stuff we already knew a century ago

@Alexander Pechorin "Clean your room"

There’s some truth to that. The gross spectacle of “environmentalists” who can’t clean up their own streets in SF is one.

@Alexander Pechorin Light hearted joke, but I totally agree.

MT gang is brewing up some 🅱ig eco-activism for 2019 🌲

Old school environmentalism actually made sense. It wasn’t about hating whites or civilization and subsidizing big green companies.

Trve environmentalism is more white babies, closed borders, and an end to foreign aid

I can dump studies on environment and immigration if anyone wants

didn't the Sierra Club used to be anti immigration?

Yes

https://cis.org/Sussis/Brief-Chronology-Sierra-Clubs-Retreat-ImmigrationPopulation-Connection-Updated

Or you can just visit a third world country. I rented a home on the coast of Ecuador a few years back. Trash washing up on the beach. No whites to clean it up.

Making money>protecting environment this is true with the white farmers down south

Go on any random Indian Reservation and there's trash everywhere

Is there a number as far as household income where people start to care about the environment?

A lot of waste due to subsidies unfortunately. Soy is dirty to produce, and overproduced because of funding.

Well when environmentalism is framed as some globalist agenda instead of “clean your backyard and your neighborhood” then it won’t be something for lower to middle classes

Globalist environmentalist is a luxury

@Alexander Pechorin I have not thought of it this way before

Well said @Alexander Pechorin

Like dispose of your old car batteries correctly level environmentalism

Clean your ~~room~~ backyard *picture of American open spaces*

J Peterson, get on this

You don’t get near the virtue signaling power from picking up your backyard lol

When we did the LA River cleanup it was nearly all middle class whites volunteering

More Johnny Appleseed, less Solyndra

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Appleseed

More Aldo Leopold

What other people plants gardens just because they look nice?

@William Russell I couldn't find the answer to your income question but I found something else interesting while I was looking

Whatcha got?

https://www.jstor.org/stable/24707060

We present a theory of the basis of support for a social movement. Three types of support (citizenship actions, policy support and acceptance, and personal-sphere behaviors that accord with movement principles) are empirically distinct from each other and from committed activism. Drawing on theoretical work on values and norm-activation processes, we propose a value-belief-norm (VBN) theory of movement support. Individuals who accept a movement's basic values, believe that valued objects are threatened, and believe that their actions can help restore those values experience an obligation (personal norm) for pro-movement action that creates a predisposition to provide support; the particular type of support that results is dependent on the individual's capabilities and constraints. Data from a national survey of 420 respondents suggest that the VBN theory, when compared with other prevalent theories, offers the best available account of support for the environmental movement.

>420 respondents
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Seems to be what @missliterallywho and @Alexander Pechorin were getting at right?

TL;DR: Willingness to support a political movement depends on (1) people agree with the basic premises, (2) people feel like that there is a genuine threat, and (3) people believe that they can do something about it

I was thinking start small and grow outwards

@missliterallywho 420 is not a bad sample size as long as it is representative of the general population. Or did you just think it sounds funny because of the number?

Sounds like the impetus behind the identitarian movement

Most people seem to have a prob with 3