Their men don't have to worry about their women aborting their child, divorcing them, taking the living and forced to be trans daughter, and the house with them while they have to pay alimony and child support for the rest of their days

Ukraine actually has one of the highest abortion rates on Earth

The women also probably aren't looking for careers and material goods instead of a family

I mean the collective problem

>black pill, the map

Baltics are higher thsn I imagined

Thought it'd all be blue

It does go to show that "they'll just get abortions illegally/elsewhere" isn't really true

woah, Russia, whatcha doin there?

A lot of Americans on the far right seriously overestimate how trad Eastern Europe is

Anything looks trad compared to us, though

Oh, Afghanistan, so trad..

@TMatthews The trend is reversed among Ukrainians in the US

Meanwhile Desmond the kid tranny twerks for adults at some Pridefest down the street

The UK, Sweden, and Belgium are much worse than the US culturally, if not yet demographically

Somehow I find that we're further down the hole, though

Ukrainians that I grew up around get married at 18 and have 8 kids

I’m studying abroad in Estonia next year. I bring back Eastern Europe wife

They're also not Orthodox but Protestant

@Lawrence of Eurabia lmao don't

@Jacob That's interesting. Perhaps they embrace more traditional values as part of maintaining an identity outside of mainstream America

@TMatthews Know what the % are for the US

Also that map,
>Israel
>Europe

reeeee, everytime

> Tunisia?

@TMatthews Nah I think they were already religious in Ukraine. I heard that the pentecostals claim to be persecuted.

It's really weird because Ukraine itself is almost entirely Orthodox, but the Ukrainians I grew up around were almost all Protestant

Tunisia being in there is odd too

@Jacob That may be it. Religiosity correlates strongly with birthrate, especially when the religious group forms its own community

Yeah but you have to think, here in WI I'm sure most people dont get abortions

but if you get into racial areas such as Milwaukee

I'm sure it's abortions everywhere

WI is in the lower range (8-11%). Maybe 5% in rural areas, 25% in Milwaukee?

For being a lower range that is still many many abortions

Yeah a US map by country or even just a further breakdown would be nice liek the EU one

I would say I would live in a relatively rural region but I have never met anyone or heard of anyone around my area of getting one

Are we discussing that abortions shouldn't be legal, or that they should be but anyone getting them is bad? I'm anti-abortion but always find guys on the right are for it bc black people demographics

You can't do one by county because not all counties have clinics and recording/disclosing the addresses of women who get abortions would break multiple laws

@Flint IIRC a red elephants had a video where he mentioned that and that some states abortions are ~50% white women so it would hurt us just as much