Ukraine is epic

@Sam Southern - TN we should. Lots of resources to be extracted there

@reactionarytree No, Russia and China are actually pretty close these days, they wouldn't jeopardize that relationship for the sake of allying with their nemesis the USA

bc at the end of the day, USA will not be able to be militarily antagonistic towards Russia and China (a country that holds most US debt)

I'd rather not have China be more powerful whether economically or militarily

@Alex Kolchak - NY I prefer not to take over other regions. I just want to be left alone

Russia and China are currently friends of convenience to counter American hegemony

isolationism is ideal but it has drawbacks that will leave us behind and our competition ahead.

well.. "friends"..

Russia does not want to be dominated by China in the future

From the Ukrainian perspective, Russia is a multi racial empire that wants to dominate their country.

@Nemets I literally created the Slav server so this *doesn't* happen. At least I'm not the one who started it.

@Kingfish I think I might have said something along the lines of the Russian Communist Party being fairly nationalistic and somewhat pro-white.

mods are asleep, re-fight the Russian Civil War!

Everyone who has the intention to Slav post, DM me for the Slav server so we stop shitting up this server

@Sam Southern - TN I think we can both agree we want America to be the strongest and most prosperous nation on the planet. If China surpasses us it can lead to problems down the line. Checking their expansion is important imo.

>3 mods and pat online lol @Alex Kolchak - NY

whoops

@Alex Kolchak - NY 👀

I don't think that the Chinese, bred to be conformist as they are, will surpass us

If USA and Russia do not ally then the world will be dominated by the Chinese. This proposal of US-Russia alliance is the only way Europeans hold on to their destiny at the global level

all they're good at is stealing our tech and copying it

@Nemets I think you can identify my personal hero lol

more for his pre-Civil War exploits. He was a flawed leader during it

>European
>global

unless we're restarting the British Empire, meh

@Sam Southern - TN idk man they're not bound by western ethics or really any other form of restrictions on their expansion

A conformist nation as big as them can be a big threat imo

yeah but they don't have the spark for ingenuity that led us to the heights that we reached

drones bred for a single purpose is not an ideal enemy to have

If we continue on our current path: US empire will continue to decline, Europe will fall into multicult chaos and Russia will be too weak to combat Chinese hegemony on their own.

@Sam Southern - TN agreed

@reactionarytree That's a great point. Even from a self interest perspective it's probably a bad idea to support Ukrainian "nationalists".

with gene editing,who really knows where they can go? that's a fair point for someone tomake

but they can be a thorn in our side if we let them

I'd rather not let them

China is going to eat us for breakfast if they become the dominant power in Africa and increase their presence in South America and elsewhere

I'm for isolationism whenever possible, but you have to consider the alternative

grim outlook but entirely possible

China is going to turn us all gay.

tbh I don't agree.. I really don't think that China will be able to dominate us. they have a decent urban class that rigs their IQ scores, but most of their population is still rural retards.

they will forever be missing the spark that made Europeans what we are.

Best option at this point is for Ukraine to get rid of Poroshenko, have a Russia friendly government installed, and give Azov guys monkey trials