Message from @zaley rose

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2020-12-08 20:19:42 UTC  

hey, the left wants more social workers and stuff like that... we could have more... but instead of replacing the police, we just have them vetting couples or individuals who want to adopt. more jobs, more adoptions, less kids in adoption hell.

2020-12-08 20:20:04 UTC  

lmao deregulate adoption

2020-12-08 20:20:13 UTC  

They make good parents but when it comes to the child's mental health it is proven that kids with a mom and a dad are less likely to commit suicide

2020-12-08 20:21:19 UTC  

is that "kids with a mom and a dad instead of a single parent" or "kids with a mom and a dad instead of a dad and a dad or a mom and a mom" ?

2020-12-08 20:21:25 UTC  

I think one way to encourage adoption is if more companies included adoption benefits like they do maternity leave. I read some stats about that at one point and it's a low cost thing for companies to offer because most won't ever use it while for those that do, it allows more people to adopt by covering the fees.

2020-12-08 20:21:35 UTC  

because I feel like its probably the first one. if you have a source for it, please, change my mind (:

2020-12-08 20:21:56 UTC  

I like that David, thats a good idea.

2020-12-08 20:21:59 UTC  

i've started adopting the attitude of "less social workers = better society" after i learnt that socialism/communism uses social workers to disrupt relationships and overburden more bureaucracy/wasting money

2020-12-08 20:22:57 UTC  

you know what, that might be true. doesnt seem implausible. ill give you that one... and I have seen some bad shit before in that regard. but idk. im not sure if thats really the majority of what they do.

2020-12-08 20:23:04 UTC  

What I'm talking about is even if someone is a lgptq+ parent the kid needs a father figure or a motherly figure in their life

2020-12-08 20:24:15 UTC  

And it's not just those kids everyone needs parent like figures

2020-12-08 20:24:34 UTC  

that's a good idea that companies could try out

2020-12-08 20:26:35 UTC  

well, one way to cut down costs/regulations is cutting down bureaucracy. so if we ever reach a point where anybody cares to reform foster system, i suspect whoever spearhead the initiative to go through all the admins fluffs and started cutting down levels whose responsibilities overlapped with each other

2020-12-08 20:26:59 UTC  

I hate bureaucracy.

2020-12-08 20:27:18 UTC  

also, not to dampen people's mood, the modern trend is smaller households, and less kids are being born or exist at all in the family, so i think there will be less adoptions overall in the future?

2020-12-08 20:27:30 UTC  

This is why I like our community everyone is up for discussion even is we slightly disagree

2020-12-08 20:27:35 UTC  

tell me about it <:KEK:726877368601411624> democracy dies in bureaucracy

2020-12-08 20:27:55 UTC  

Once a job is created in government, it's almost impossible to get rid of. Just look at USPS and why they are so far in debt and it's not the cost to ship.

2020-12-08 20:28:28 UTC  

goddamn it. stop shaming usps. they're essential service to our election integrity!

2020-12-08 20:28:36 UTC  

This is what sets us apart, and what makes this a actually nice place to be. Keep defying those stereotypes leftists label us as. Truth is truth.

2020-12-08 20:28:56 UTC  

@isoboto I don't really think so... many kids are being privately adopted everyday... because its actually more affordable

2020-12-08 20:29:41 UTC  

really? i hope so. the trend nowaday is "no marriage, independent people". so i was a bit worried

2020-12-08 20:30:10 UTC  

another trend is "dont have kids because they are bad for the environment and cause global warming REEEEE"

2020-12-08 20:30:18 UTC  

fuckin leftists...

2020-12-08 20:30:25 UTC  

I wish virtue signaling leftist would domestically adopt rather than internationally. It's still a good thing that they are adopting these kids, but there are so many in our country that need a parent you don't have to look to Africa or Asia to find a child in need.

2020-12-08 20:30:48 UTC  

Why just Christians??? You realize don't you that many of us oppose abortion and are not Christians, right??

2020-12-08 20:31:14 UTC  

^ true

2020-12-08 20:31:27 UTC  

but I think he meant more along the lines about what Christians believe, their morals, and what the bible s ays

2020-12-08 20:31:36 UTC  

thats why they need to be rready to adopt.

2020-12-08 20:31:55 UTC  

lollllll i was going through John Ward's old video and stumbled upon a gem where a mother was telling her followers not to have babies anymore and encourage abortion......with her daughter sitting right next to her

2020-12-08 20:32:22 UTC  

fuck I think ive seen that one before, or a similar one.... its actually even more sad that theres enough to get them mixed up.......

2020-12-08 20:32:50 UTC  

the two ladies that look high af, right 😂

2020-12-08 20:33:06 UTC  

There is still a biological factor to want to raise the next generation. Eventually many of these people will discover what is missing in their life but by that point biology may say it's to late. However with our longer life spans, adoption is still viable because if you treat your body well you can still have a number of good years left.

2020-12-08 20:33:17 UTC  

what leftist isnt high on something? if its not drugs, its a horse. (get it, high horse?)

2020-12-08 20:33:30 UTC  

Well Christians get rejected by the system a lot so I'm just saying that the people that have been rejected are going to prepare

2020-12-08 20:33:31 UTC  

that was a bad pun but i approve

2020-12-08 20:33:38 UTC  

>:D

2020-12-08 20:35:09 UTC  

I think the Christian point is also to contrast Islam where Muhammad outlawed adoption. However, I don't intend to side track this conversation down that.

2020-12-08 20:35:31 UTC  

that's fair. although consumerism will tell you, you need to buy more stuffs and need more "cheat days", not adopt kids and find a purpose in life

2020-12-08 20:35:50 UTC  

what the fuck? really? I did not know that, wtf??

2020-12-08 20:36:48 UTC  

Hmmm interesting