also, not to dampen people's mood, the modern trend is smaller households, and less kids are being born or exist at all in the family, so i think there will be less adoptions overall in the future?

This is why I like our community everyone is up for discussion even is we slightly disagree

tell me about it <:KEK:726877368601411624> democracy dies in bureaucracy

Once a job is created in government, it's almost impossible to get rid of. Just look at USPS and why they are so far in debt and it's not the cost to ship.

goddamn it. stop shaming usps. they're essential service to our election integrity!

This is what sets us apart, and what makes this a actually nice place to be. Keep defying those stereotypes leftists label us as. Truth is truth.

@isoboto I don't really think so... many kids are being privately adopted everyday... because its actually more affordable

really? i hope so. the trend nowaday is "no marriage, independent people". so i was a bit worried

another trend is "dont have kids because they are bad for the environment and cause global warming REEEEE"

fuckin leftists...

I wish virtue signaling leftist would domestically adopt rather than internationally. It's still a good thing that they are adopting these kids, but there are so many in our country that need a parent you don't have to look to Africa or Asia to find a child in need.

Why just Christians??? You realize don't you that many of us oppose abortion and are not Christians, right??

^ true

but I think he meant more along the lines about what Christians believe, their morals, and what the bible s ays

thats why they need to be rready to adopt.

lollllll i was going through John Ward's old video and stumbled upon a gem where a mother was telling her followers not to have babies anymore and encourage abortion......with her daughter sitting right next to her

fuck I think ive seen that one before, or a similar one.... its actually even more sad that theres enough to get them mixed up.......

the two ladies that look high af, right 😂

There is still a biological factor to want to raise the next generation. Eventually many of these people will discover what is missing in their life but by that point biology may say it's to late. However with our longer life spans, adoption is still viable because if you treat your body well you can still have a number of good years left.

what leftist isnt high on something? if its not drugs, its a horse. (get it, high horse?)

Well Christians get rejected by the system a lot so I'm just saying that the people that have been rejected are going to prepare

that was a bad pun but i approve

>:D

I think the Christian point is also to contrast Islam where Muhammad outlawed adoption. However, I don't intend to side track this conversation down that.

that's fair. although consumerism will tell you, you need to buy more stuffs and need more "cheat days", not adopt kids and find a purpose in life

what the fuck? really? I did not know that, wtf??

Hmmm interesting

well, it also depends on the cultural context. in asia/asians, we place a lot of values on lineage or the concept of bloodlines/family blood is thicker than blood, so adoption usually get you a lot of frowns

It's because Muhammad married his adopted sons wife who he divorced after Muhammad lusted after her. however, even in that culture, people thought that was wrong and Muhammad then got word that adoption was no longer a thing so it was ok to do.

So you want people without children to subsidize the personal choices of other people??? If you need someone else to subsidize your personal choices, you aren't ready for those choices.

I'm not saying require it, but have it as an optional benefit that a company can offer similar to how maternity benefits are not required but a benefit many companies offer to full time employees. You already have some companies that do this like Netflix, Hilton, Snap Inc., and Bank of America.

If Maternity leave is a thing, than I think its more than acceptable and more than reasonable to have something similar for a family adopting a child.

Not the same, not at all, but something.

You know what? I actually really like David!!!

We are all David-stan in this house

lmao

I'm honestly starting to really like you xD@isoboto

thank you, thank you. I like me, too

That is very true. We adopted six children out the of the CPS system. Imagine the DPS, the post office and buying a house everyday for 18 months... times six

Some businesses do offer it along with their standard maternity leave. It is still someone subsidizes a personal choice. That cost comes from somewhere, nothing is free.

it was worth it in the end (although obviously, not having to go through the tediousness of bureaucracy is the preferred process)