@isoboto I don't really think so... many kids are being privately adopted everyday... because its actually more affordable

really? i hope so. the trend nowaday is "no marriage, independent people". so i was a bit worried

another trend is "dont have kids because they are bad for the environment and cause global warming REEEEE"

fuckin leftists...

I wish virtue signaling leftist would domestically adopt rather than internationally. It's still a good thing that they are adopting these kids, but there are so many in our country that need a parent you don't have to look to Africa or Asia to find a child in need.

Why just Christians??? You realize don't you that many of us oppose abortion and are not Christians, right??

^ true

but I think he meant more along the lines about what Christians believe, their morals, and what the bible s ays

thats why they need to be rready to adopt.

lollllll i was going through John Ward's old video and stumbled upon a gem where a mother was telling her followers not to have babies anymore and encourage abortion......with her daughter sitting right next to her

fuck I think ive seen that one before, or a similar one.... its actually even more sad that theres enough to get them mixed up.......

the two ladies that look high af, right 😂

There is still a biological factor to want to raise the next generation. Eventually many of these people will discover what is missing in their life but by that point biology may say it's to late. However with our longer life spans, adoption is still viable because if you treat your body well you can still have a number of good years left.

what leftist isnt high on something? if its not drugs, its a horse. (get it, high horse?)

Well Christians get rejected by the system a lot so I'm just saying that the people that have been rejected are going to prepare

that was a bad pun but i approve

>:D

I think the Christian point is also to contrast Islam where Muhammad outlawed adoption. However, I don't intend to side track this conversation down that.

that's fair. although consumerism will tell you, you need to buy more stuffs and need more "cheat days", not adopt kids and find a purpose in life

what the fuck? really? I did not know that, wtf??

Hmmm interesting

well, it also depends on the cultural context. in asia/asians, we place a lot of values on lineage or the concept of bloodlines/family blood is thicker than blood, so adoption usually get you a lot of frowns

It's because Muhammad married his adopted sons wife who he divorced after Muhammad lusted after her. however, even in that culture, people thought that was wrong and Muhammad then got word that adoption was no longer a thing so it was ok to do.

So you want people without children to subsidize the personal choices of other people??? If you need someone else to subsidize your personal choices, you aren't ready for those choices.

I'm not saying require it, but have it as an optional benefit that a company can offer similar to how maternity benefits are not required but a benefit many companies offer to full time employees. You already have some companies that do this like Netflix, Hilton, Snap Inc., and Bank of America.

If Maternity leave is a thing, than I think its more than acceptable and more than reasonable to have something similar for a family adopting a child.

Not the same, not at all, but something.

You know what? I actually really like David!!!

We are all David-stan in this house

lmao

I'm honestly starting to really like you xD@isoboto

thank you, thank you. I like me, too

That is very true. We adopted six children out the of the CPS system. Imagine the DPS, the post office and buying a house everyday for 18 months... times six

Some businesses do offer it along with their standard maternity leave. It is still someone subsidizes a personal choice. That cost comes from somewhere, nothing is free.

it was worth it in the end (although obviously, not having to go through the tediousness of bureaucracy is the preferred process)

Actually it's from your labor, instead of the money going to your pay check, it's put into your benefits.

More than worth it, or we wouldn't have done it six times.

No its from EVERYONE's labor, even employees without children.

So do you belief maternity leave and company health insurance is also wrong. Some people use more benefits then others and pull more out of the pool while other use less of the benefits.

The idea is that eventually everyone will get about equal use out of their benefits if they stay long enough. However it is still a product of your labor because it's a part of your pay for working at said company.

I'm an employer who does not offer maternity leave for anyone, because the cost is borne by others. Only PART of the cost is borne by you, the rest is borne by others. Insurance is different because the cost is LESS to the employee due to the group aspect.