@metasophocles the new stuff has a lot of problems. It really isn't any different than 100 years ago.

There's also the fact that hygienic practices are 10x better than they used to be, which could be a factor causing less disease

In my opinion education is only useful for those who are born intelligent enough to be educated. Back in the 1740s the Prince of Anhalt-Dessau in Germany (who was also a Prussian general and who invented marching in step on the battlefield) decided that his youngest son, Moritz, should be raised totally without any formal education at all in order to see about the Enlightenment theories of the "natural man" and the "blank slate." So Moritz grew up with NO education at all. He grew up hunting and riding and when he was 16 he joined the Prussian Army. He proved to be a literate, articulate man with a fine sense for tactical aggression. His father, the Old Dessauer, properly took that to mean that all the French and German philosophers were so much a waste of air. He was right. (((They))) are wrong.

Part of me want to be a hardliner and say medicine is fundamentally dysgenic, part of me thinks vaccines can theoretically be done safely

Lots of studies have shown that putting aluminum and mercury into your blood is dangerous and will cause it to linger in your brain tissue. None have shown it is healthy.

There is all the reason in the world to let the chumps vaccinate their kids and benefit off of group immunity.

Dunno man... I worked at a very expensive summer camp and we had a rubella outbreak. In Current Year 1 (2015)

No good answers, really.

Thats my dilemma

Medicine is being abused now to keep people alive rather than preserve healthy people from incidental disease

>tfw rich liberals and third worlders get the same diseases
What did they mean by this?

Virgins whomst've contracted measles from associating with 3rd worlders vs Chads that simply quarantine

If you are putting kids in summer camps and day care with children who have family members travelling abroad then vaccines can be helpful. Crafting a lifestyle where you dont have to submit your kids to health disaster like that is better though.

I mean you are suggesting isolated AnPrim

Not that I'm against that in principle

But practicality?

Ever going to the grocery store or church puts you in a contact node with a vast portion of the planet.

ok, redpill me on vaccines. i don't see how you couldn't vaccinate your children living around other people?

A healthy dose of...group operant herditary preventative measures could...build a more rugged population...so to speak

Medical opsec eh?

Yeah but it's not binary. Your kids might not either croak or become godly Numenoreans. They could just get messed up forever.

In the generation of the true Gondolian, its a sacrifice we'll all have to make

>tfw Hurin chained to a rock

@Logan It can't be right to shoot up them babies with all that stuff at once. But in the end our ancestors came down the Great Wagon Road in the 18th century eating pork and fatback and all sorts of horrible things. They worked their scrawny butts off and yet, and yet most of them still lived to be old men and women. In 1963 when I was 8 years old, I met my Aunt Minnie who was 105!!! She was a sweet lady who still had all her brains, but I was as afraid of her as I was a ghost or a zombie. Even then I knew what it meant to be that old. It meant death. Victorian death. Where they take a photo of you in your coffin. We still have a photo of Aunt Minnie in her coffin. My mother thinks nothing of it. It's just a normal thing to do. Of course my mother is now 88.

Worried about vaccines? Nibba, my kid *glows*, is he destined for the CIA?

Central Immunological Agency

@Asatru Artist - MD the Dr Sears book is very thorough and balanced. Some vaccines are more risky than others. Usually the ones with more aluminum and mercury.

It is common to put multiple vaccines together. Doctors find it easier but those combo vaccines tend to have more of the dangerous stuff. Getting bits of aluminum through diet and breastmilk is no problem but taking an injection of 8 times the recommended maximum is a shady practice that the medical community tolerates.

Well, like I said, I'm not completely anti-vax. I just don't want them to give my baby 4 shots in one day. We will spread them out

@Flint Your kid is a super saiyan

(white confirmed)

@Isabella Locke-MT Yes!! Your baby will be fine without a lot of shots at once. After all, Winston Churchill was once a baby and he was born in 1872.

He does often speak about preserving his warrior race, so maybe so

If manlet: Vegeta

If lanklet: Goku
If autist: Broly

The Dragon Scouts are going to turn our sons and daughters into warriors as of old

If under 6' is manlet, he's destined for Vegeta-dom

But a strong chance for Broly

Real Red-Pill is that Vegeta was the better husband and father

Goku was always away/dead

Vegeta's the chad anyway--and yeah, an actual present and good father

Goku was obsessed with proving he was the best.