or Persians

@Jacob can't recall.

He was at the times square action flexing on hwnd.

some Persians and Lebanese are white if you squint lol

and some are very nice and cultured and Westernized people

that’s why “ethnicity” is a more useful term a lot of the time

At the end of the day, white = European but a shift towards using European sounds so much better because it gets rid of "muh skin color" and allows for us to make it about heritage and identity more broadly

@TMatthews Evropean, thank you.

Idk how to phrase that really, but it's part of why I love the name IE

I agree with you on that

some people object though because apparently most normal Americans don't feel "European"

If we chose an America themed name but still obviously didn't allow nonwhites, it would give off 1.0 vibes. This is different. We're building our own brand

@Jacob I think as more people become aware of issues like immigration in Europe, they’ll identify or at least relate to Europeans a bit more

Identity Super Saiyan

(who are white)

Normal Americans haven't heard of identitarianism and that's okay. Much better than something like white nationalism which brings up imagery of skinheads/KKK in their minds.

@Nemets You are right. maybe a little Revolution / founding fathers factoids

@Alex Kolchak - NY This might be hard for people like us to put in perspective since we both have family that is fairly recently from Europe. I honestly don't know how some guy whose entire family has been here since the 17th century would feel about this.

If we introduce ourselves as identitarians, or even just as a European heritage group, it gives us the ability to define who we are to anyone curious about us. They don't have to think of themselves as European to think "they have heritage and activist groups for everyone else, so why not Europeans?"

European national identities developed in part thanks to faster means of communication and printed books which gave people a sense of shared history/language/etc

the same could happen with broader racial identity thanks to the internet

White identity worldwide is bigger now than any time since before the world wars, I would say. Even when it's negative (white guilt) it's being collectively applied even on nations that never owned colonies.

“oh hey the people in the next town over have the same language and religion, maybe we’re similar” - 18th and 19th century

“oh hey those folks in Europe and South Africa are being diversified by force too, maybe we’re similar” - 21st century

I’m simplifying, but you get the idea

The conspiracy theories about globalists faking an alien incursion to force one-world government have always interested/spooked me.

I don't like subverting national identities in Europe to a pan-European one. The future has to be one of nationalists cooperating across white countries. That's another reason why identitarianism is good. It doesn't say we all need to be one white superstate like RS would want

I think we should just have one big Montana

based

A "White NATO" is my suggestion.

Mutual defense pact

I think for America it's a bit different from Europe because most people still understand French, German, etc are white ethnicities while people believe American can be anyone

So we need to promote European-American identity specifically here

@Lawrence of Eurabia Texas is good too.

@Clayton_H_ATX did you know the ethnostate is actually in Texas?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vwgwpUcxch4

Aren't public schools in Texas like 2/3 nonwhite? Really sad stuff

@Alex Kolchak - NY the part of Texas I’m from is very much Czech/German

@Alex Kolchak - NY little German speaking settlements actually exist in other states, like Washington, too

I just learned about that and it’s really cool

Hutterites speak a dialect of German

ya, Hutterites

we have a few colonies here

Czech museums in Cedar Rapids, Iowa and Yukon, OK.

@TMatthews you’re not wrong, but there a many pockets of distinctly European cultures.