Message from @MrDefault

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2018-12-11 22:27:55 UTC  

@TMatthews Good point, but they already have that "power".

2018-12-11 22:28:42 UTC  

"look Miss, all i'm telling you is that my generation have failed to see what conservative men twice my senior have actually conserved. at this rate, and this is important for you to think about if you have any children, my unborn grandchildren and yours as well will have no future. If he's prepared to remove the cenotaph and the confederate plaque, then we will have nothing at this rate"
butthurt ensued after

2018-12-11 22:29:50 UTC  

i'm having a hard time seeing the difference between leftists and normie-cons at this point

2018-12-11 22:30:45 UTC  

@Kingfish He is legitimate. He cant inherit Spain. They were overthrown in 1830's in a revolution which installed the Oreanlists branch.

2018-12-11 22:31:51 UTC  

He is also the great great grandson of Queen Victoria

2018-12-11 22:32:08 UTC  

So in theory he could end up ruling Spain France and England.

2018-12-11 22:32:25 UTC  

Royalty means nothing without the power to rule. The power to rule makes its own justifications of legitimacy.

2018-12-11 22:32:56 UTC  

Alexander didn't let superstition or tradition or decrees keep him from the Persian throne.

2018-12-11 22:33:47 UTC  

@MrDefault one crown to rule them all? 🤔

2018-12-11 22:34:12 UTC  

@Perihelion - CA Alexander also died and his empire collapsed. He was the legitimate son of the King of Macedonia. So it was like he was some peasant revolutionary.

2018-12-11 22:35:10 UTC  

@Goose Habsburgs in the east Bourbons in the west, but who would rule the US 🤔 ?

2018-12-11 22:35:54 UTC  

Why would it matter if the monarchy of spain was overthrown, if he is still of the line that renounced all claims

2018-12-11 22:36:16 UTC  

No the Monarchy of France was overthrown.

2018-12-11 22:36:50 UTC  

but he still is of a line that renounced all legal claims

2018-12-11 22:37:29 UTC  

by that he wouldn't be able to claim either

2018-12-11 22:37:55 UTC  

Cite your source big guy

2018-12-11 22:38:09 UTC  

monarchy of France lost their way and abused their power <:sad:366743316475281408>

2018-12-11 22:38:28 UTC  

the revolution was a bad idea, but it was inevitable

2018-12-11 22:39:14 UTC  

citation: The treaty of Utrecht lmao

2018-12-11 22:39:29 UTC  

I'm assuming you're not gonna take the wiki

2018-12-11 22:40:05 UTC  

Yeah

2018-12-11 22:40:15 UTC  

Thats why he cant inherit Spain

2018-12-11 22:40:25 UTC  

lemme slow this down for you

2018-12-11 22:40:28 UTC  

He is of the branch of French successors.

2018-12-11 22:40:36 UTC  

Philip V renounced all claims to the FRENCH throne

2018-12-11 22:40:47 UTC  

he is of Philip V's line

2018-12-11 22:40:48 UTC  

Keep it civil, ladies. <:really:453005408064241674>

2018-12-11 22:40:49 UTC  

therefore

2018-12-11 22:40:55 UTC  

he has no claim to the French throne

2018-12-11 22:41:40 UTC  

Kingfish is correct but it really doesn't matter. France is not going to revert to monarchy in the foreseeable future.

2018-12-11 22:44:19 UTC  

I think if it's anyone it would be Henri d’Orléans

2018-12-11 22:44:31 UTC  

@Kingfish The crown is not the personal property of the King and thus he cannot alter the line of succession by abdication or renunciation.

2018-12-11 22:44:44 UTC  

Yes he literally can

2018-12-11 22:44:47 UTC  

he did

2018-12-11 22:44:52 UTC  

at the Treaty of Utrecht

2018-12-11 22:45:06 UTC  

@Kingfish Yeah that is invalid.

2018-12-11 22:45:07 UTC  

it happened

2018-12-11 22:45:20 UTC  

according to who lmao

2018-12-11 22:45:33 UTC  

it wasn't invalid for any of the European powers

2018-12-11 22:45:51 UTC  

it stood as the law for over 300 years

2018-12-11 22:45:55 UTC  

now it's invalid?