Message from @MrDefault

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2018-12-11 22:35:54 UTC  

Why would it matter if the monarchy of spain was overthrown, if he is still of the line that renounced all claims

2018-12-11 22:36:16 UTC  

No the Monarchy of France was overthrown.

2018-12-11 22:36:50 UTC  

but he still is of a line that renounced all legal claims

2018-12-11 22:37:29 UTC  

by that he wouldn't be able to claim either

2018-12-11 22:37:55 UTC  

Cite your source big guy

2018-12-11 22:38:09 UTC  

monarchy of France lost their way and abused their power <:sad:366743316475281408>

2018-12-11 22:38:28 UTC  

the revolution was a bad idea, but it was inevitable

2018-12-11 22:39:14 UTC  

citation: The treaty of Utrecht lmao

2018-12-11 22:39:29 UTC  

I'm assuming you're not gonna take the wiki

2018-12-11 22:40:05 UTC  

Yeah

2018-12-11 22:40:15 UTC  

Thats why he cant inherit Spain

2018-12-11 22:40:25 UTC  

lemme slow this down for you

2018-12-11 22:40:28 UTC  

He is of the branch of French successors.

2018-12-11 22:40:36 UTC  

Philip V renounced all claims to the FRENCH throne

2018-12-11 22:40:47 UTC  

he is of Philip V's line

2018-12-11 22:40:48 UTC  

Keep it civil, ladies. <:really:453005408064241674>

2018-12-11 22:40:49 UTC  

therefore

2018-12-11 22:40:55 UTC  

he has no claim to the French throne

2018-12-11 22:41:40 UTC  

Kingfish is correct but it really doesn't matter. France is not going to revert to monarchy in the foreseeable future.

2018-12-11 22:44:19 UTC  

I think if it's anyone it would be Henri d’Orléans

2018-12-11 22:44:31 UTC  

@Kingfish The crown is not the personal property of the King and thus he cannot alter the line of succession by abdication or renunciation.

2018-12-11 22:44:44 UTC  

Yes he literally can

2018-12-11 22:44:47 UTC  

he did

2018-12-11 22:44:52 UTC  

at the Treaty of Utrecht

2018-12-11 22:45:06 UTC  

@Kingfish Yeah that is invalid.

2018-12-11 22:45:07 UTC  

it happened

2018-12-11 22:45:20 UTC  

according to who lmao

2018-12-11 22:45:33 UTC  

it wasn't invalid for any of the European powers

2018-12-11 22:45:51 UTC  

it stood as the law for over 300 years

2018-12-11 22:45:55 UTC  

now it's invalid?

2018-12-11 22:45:57 UTC  

It was done to end endless wars in Europe not to dethrone the rightfully monarch.

2018-12-11 22:46:12 UTC  

He wasn't dethroned

2018-12-11 22:46:18 UTC  

he was King of Spain

2018-12-11 22:46:27 UTC  

Yeah they are all dethroned now

2018-12-11 22:46:29 UTC  

>arguing about European rule instead of discussing about how we fix our own countries issues. <:really:453005408064241674>

2018-12-11 22:46:32 UTC  

okay?

2018-12-11 22:46:35 UTC  

and?

2018-12-11 22:46:38 UTC  

yeah they are

2018-12-11 22:46:42 UTC  

doesn't change the laws

2018-12-11 22:46:42 UTC  

Which wasnt the original intent.

2018-12-11 22:46:51 UTC  

doesn't matter what intent was LOL