Message from @Moti
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The NHS is owned by the state, which is why the UK government is considering sell it. Kinda hard to sell something you don't own.
They can (and do) forcibly deny access to necessities that others require. And extort things from them in exchange for these necessities
Are you aware, extortion is **the forced Appropriation of something, in exchange of other.**
Where is the force, on a trade.
The force is the threat of death if you do not
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What?
I find it absolutely hilarious that you call me vile while you sit there and ponder if a certain group of people is mentally disabled and should thusly lose their human rights.
GG @Hellishfish, you just advanced to level 8!
Starvation is just as lethal as a gun, is it not?
What kinda clerks in your city you have that threaten your life If you don't want to pay?
Why do you commies always argue that every current system is coercive through starvation
@Signia you starve under any system
And its very fücking hard to starve currently
Because the choice between death and action is not a choice. It's a coercion
Well life is coercive i guess?
Then life IS coercion.
Currently yes
I aim to fix that
Maybe go create another reality where organic organism dont require energy
~~Solution, become a soulist.~~
lol good luck your hyper-idealist
Abandon your atom body
Ascend to the soul realm
Or just make a society where everyone can get what they need to survive.
Uhhuh
Another pipe-dream fantasy
With what incentive.
@Signia the goverment will be providing basic necessities which will be reinstating the system you removed
Do you understand the difference between government and state?
Theres a difference I’m aware under your hypothetical thats whats providing necessities
Many possible routes, mostly just focused on creating the next best system. We can figure out details as we get closer to an ideal
You can only 'have everyone have what they need' through forcing all individuals to be doing their part.
When you have individuals able to own their own thing, they are able to take Care of it, and possibly produce off of It. This case being land.
Said production may serve to fuel voluntary transactions or exchanges.
What do you say to people who get piercings? Do you have a big ethical breakdown over that?
Hellfish thats a 2017 argument
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Reddit moved passed that
You're comparing piercings to genital mutilation, besides, this debate ended hours ago.
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