Message from @Hellishfish

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2021-01-06 01:07:56 UTC  

State doesn’t own production

2021-01-06 01:08:14 UTC  

Ok...but you want coercion to be used to force private property from the hands of everyone and forcefully redistribute It under the rule of the people.

Tell me how this is moral and a state isn't?

2021-01-06 01:08:15 UTC  

but, uh at least you attempted something there

2021-01-06 01:08:21 UTC  

It does for nationalized industry, yes

2021-01-06 01:08:30 UTC  

uh huh

2021-01-06 01:08:45 UTC  

Who owns the NHS Bleach?

2021-01-06 01:09:48 UTC  

For the same reason seizing power from monarchs by force to establish democracy is moral.

2021-01-06 01:10:13 UTC  

***Ew. Democracy.***

2021-01-06 01:10:45 UTC  

Is democracy preferable not to monarchy?

2021-01-06 01:11:00 UTC  

NHS is a government agency but what does that have to do with anything

2021-01-06 01:11:00 UTC  

What kind of coercion exactly. Are business owners inacting upon others?

2021-01-06 01:11:32 UTC  

Isnt free healthcare something you lefties love so much

2021-01-06 01:11:33 UTC  

Do they force people to Join them? Do they utilize of violence to sell their products?

2021-01-06 01:12:12 UTC  

The NHS is owned by the state, which is why the UK government is considering sell it. Kinda hard to sell something you don't own.

2021-01-06 01:13:23 UTC  

They can (and do) forcibly deny access to necessities that others require. And extort things from them in exchange for these necessities

2021-01-06 01:14:10 UTC  

Are you aware, extortion is **the forced Appropriation of something, in exchange of other.**

2021-01-06 01:14:21 UTC  

Where is the force, on a trade.

2021-01-06 01:14:45 UTC  

The force is the threat of death if you do not

2021-01-06 01:14:55 UTC  

?

2021-01-06 01:14:55 UTC  

What?

2021-01-06 01:14:57 UTC  

I find it absolutely hilarious that you call me vile while you sit there and ponder if a certain group of people is mentally disabled and should thusly lose their human rights.

2021-01-06 01:14:58 UTC  

GG @Hellishfish, you just advanced to level 8!

2021-01-06 01:15:06 UTC  

Starvation is just as lethal as a gun, is it not?

2021-01-06 01:15:12 UTC  

What kinda clerks in your city you have that threaten your life If you don't want to pay?

2021-01-06 01:15:20 UTC  

Why do you commies always argue that every current system is coercive through starvation

2021-01-06 01:15:28 UTC  

@Signia you starve under any system

2021-01-06 01:15:45 UTC  

And its very fücking hard to starve currently

2021-01-06 01:15:54 UTC  

Because the choice between death and action is not a choice. It's a coercion

2021-01-06 01:16:07 UTC  

Well life is coercive i guess?

2021-01-06 01:16:11 UTC  

Then life IS coercion.

2021-01-06 01:16:19 UTC  

Currently yes

2021-01-06 01:16:24 UTC  

I aim to fix that

2021-01-06 01:16:25 UTC  

Maybe go create another reality where organic organism dont require energy

2021-01-06 01:16:31 UTC  

I said is it a human right for them to be able to mutilate themselves, which it isnt.

2021-01-06 01:16:36 UTC  

~~Solution, become a soulist.~~

2021-01-06 01:16:37 UTC  

lol good luck your hyper-idealist

2021-01-06 01:16:48 UTC  

Abandon your atom body

2021-01-06 01:16:53 UTC  

Ascend to the soul realm

2021-01-06 01:16:57 UTC  

Or just make a society where everyone can get what they need to survive.

2021-01-06 01:17:05 UTC  

Uhhuh

2021-01-06 01:17:11 UTC  

Another pipe-dream fantasy