Message from @Syllogistic

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2021-01-06 01:08:45 UTC  

Who owns the NHS Bleach?

2021-01-06 01:09:48 UTC  

For the same reason seizing power from monarchs by force to establish democracy is moral.

2021-01-06 01:10:13 UTC  

***Ew. Democracy.***

2021-01-06 01:10:45 UTC  

Is democracy preferable not to monarchy?

2021-01-06 01:11:00 UTC  

NHS is a government agency but what does that have to do with anything

2021-01-06 01:11:00 UTC  

What kind of coercion exactly. Are business owners inacting upon others?

2021-01-06 01:11:32 UTC  

Isnt free healthcare something you lefties love so much

2021-01-06 01:11:33 UTC  

Do they force people to Join them? Do they utilize of violence to sell their products?

2021-01-06 01:12:12 UTC  

The NHS is owned by the state, which is why the UK government is considering sell it. Kinda hard to sell something you don't own.

2021-01-06 01:13:23 UTC  

They can (and do) forcibly deny access to necessities that others require. And extort things from them in exchange for these necessities

2021-01-06 01:14:10 UTC  

Are you aware, extortion is **the forced Appropriation of something, in exchange of other.**

2021-01-06 01:14:21 UTC  

Where is the force, on a trade.

2021-01-06 01:14:45 UTC  

The force is the threat of death if you do not

2021-01-06 01:14:55 UTC  

?

2021-01-06 01:14:55 UTC  

What?

2021-01-06 01:14:57 UTC  

I find it absolutely hilarious that you call me vile while you sit there and ponder if a certain group of people is mentally disabled and should thusly lose their human rights.

2021-01-06 01:14:58 UTC  

GG @Hellishfish, you just advanced to level 8!

2021-01-06 01:15:06 UTC  

Starvation is just as lethal as a gun, is it not?

2021-01-06 01:15:12 UTC  

What kinda clerks in your city you have that threaten your life If you don't want to pay?

2021-01-06 01:15:20 UTC  

Why do you commies always argue that every current system is coercive through starvation

2021-01-06 01:15:28 UTC  

@Signia you starve under any system

2021-01-06 01:15:45 UTC  

And its very fücking hard to starve currently

2021-01-06 01:15:54 UTC  

Because the choice between death and action is not a choice. It's a coercion

2021-01-06 01:16:07 UTC  

Well life is coercive i guess?

2021-01-06 01:16:11 UTC  

Then life IS coercion.

2021-01-06 01:16:19 UTC  

Currently yes

2021-01-06 01:16:24 UTC  

I aim to fix that

2021-01-06 01:16:25 UTC  

Maybe go create another reality where organic organism dont require energy

2021-01-06 01:16:31 UTC  

I said is it a human right for them to be able to mutilate themselves, which it isnt.

2021-01-06 01:16:36 UTC  

~~Solution, become a soulist.~~

2021-01-06 01:16:37 UTC  

lol good luck your hyper-idealist

2021-01-06 01:16:48 UTC  

Abandon your atom body

2021-01-06 01:16:53 UTC  

Ascend to the soul realm

2021-01-06 01:16:57 UTC  

Or just make a society where everyone can get what they need to survive.

2021-01-06 01:17:05 UTC  

Uhhuh

2021-01-06 01:17:11 UTC  

Another pipe-dream fantasy

2021-01-06 01:17:11 UTC  

With what incentive.

2021-01-06 01:17:37 UTC  

@Signia the goverment will be providing basic necessities which will be reinstating the system you removed

2021-01-06 01:18:00 UTC  

Do you understand the difference between government and state?

2021-01-06 01:18:31 UTC  

Theres a difference I’m aware under your hypothetical thats whats providing necessities

2021-01-06 01:18:37 UTC  

Many possible routes, mostly just focused on creating the next best system. We can figure out details as we get closer to an ideal