Message from @Hellishfish

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2021-01-06 01:16:07 UTC  

Well life is coercive i guess?

2021-01-06 01:16:11 UTC  

Then life IS coercion.

2021-01-06 01:16:19 UTC  

Currently yes

2021-01-06 01:16:24 UTC  

I aim to fix that

2021-01-06 01:16:25 UTC  

Maybe go create another reality where organic organism dont require energy

2021-01-06 01:16:31 UTC  

I said is it a human right for them to be able to mutilate themselves, which it isnt.

2021-01-06 01:16:36 UTC  

~~Solution, become a soulist.~~

2021-01-06 01:16:37 UTC  

lol good luck your hyper-idealist

2021-01-06 01:16:48 UTC  

Abandon your atom body

2021-01-06 01:16:53 UTC  

Ascend to the soul realm

2021-01-06 01:16:57 UTC  

Or just make a society where everyone can get what they need to survive.

2021-01-06 01:17:05 UTC  

Uhhuh

2021-01-06 01:17:11 UTC  

Another pipe-dream fantasy

2021-01-06 01:17:11 UTC  

With what incentive.

2021-01-06 01:17:37 UTC  

@Signia the goverment will be providing basic necessities which will be reinstating the system you removed

2021-01-06 01:18:00 UTC  

Do you understand the difference between government and state?

2021-01-06 01:18:31 UTC  

Theres a difference I’m aware under your hypothetical thats whats providing necessities

2021-01-06 01:18:37 UTC  

Many possible routes, mostly just focused on creating the next best system. We can figure out details as we get closer to an ideal

2021-01-06 01:19:00 UTC  

You can only 'have everyone have what they need' through forcing all individuals to be doing their part.
When you have individuals able to own their own thing, they are able to take Care of it, and possibly produce off of It. This case being land.

2021-01-06 01:19:23 UTC  

Said production may serve to fuel voluntary transactions or exchanges.

2021-01-06 01:19:25 UTC  

What do you say to people who get piercings? Do you have a big ethical breakdown over that?

2021-01-06 01:19:36 UTC  

Hellfish thats a 2017 argument

2021-01-06 01:19:42 UTC  

lel

2021-01-06 01:19:43 UTC  

Reddit moved passed that

2021-01-06 01:20:15 UTC  

You're comparing piercings to genital mutilation, besides, this debate ended hours ago.

2021-01-06 01:20:15 UTC  

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2021-01-06 01:20:25 UTC  

Didn't they already say they dislike people with piercings, I thought you two already went over that

2021-01-06 01:20:29 UTC  

Who said I would be forcing anybody to do anything? You can make incentives. I'm not completely opposed to limited markets y'know

2021-01-06 01:21:07 UTC  

The only fair is Laissez Faire

2021-01-06 01:21:41 UTC  

So let's make a system that can do that.

2021-01-06 01:21:49 UTC  

Limiting markets is limiting the potential of innovation and creation of new wealth.

There's a reason why for many centuries, people owned approximatelly less than USD$1 per hour, and then suddenly, experienced a growth-

2021-01-06 01:22:00 UTC  

So....anarchy. Laissez-Faire.

2021-01-06 01:22:07 UTC  

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2021-01-06 01:22:10 UTC  

I'm an anarchist yes

2021-01-06 01:22:14 UTC  

What does that resemble.

2021-01-06 01:22:29 UTC  

Read spinoza <:troll:692158602256973864>

2021-01-06 01:22:45 UTC  

I'm against lassez-faire *capitalism*

2021-01-06 01:23:06 UTC  

In the same way I'm against dictators being allowed to do what they want

2021-01-06 01:23:10 UTC  

How do you have. Laissez-Faire socialism?
That'll just evolve onto capitalism. Lol.

2021-01-06 01:23:19 UTC  

Market socialism does that

2021-01-06 01:23:40 UTC  

Democracy doesn't have to collapse to dictatorship, no