Message from @Signia

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2021-01-06 01:11:00 UTC  

What kind of coercion exactly. Are business owners inacting upon others?

2021-01-06 01:11:32 UTC  

Isnt free healthcare something you lefties love so much

2021-01-06 01:11:33 UTC  

Do they force people to Join them? Do they utilize of violence to sell their products?

2021-01-06 01:12:12 UTC  

The NHS is owned by the state, which is why the UK government is considering sell it. Kinda hard to sell something you don't own.

2021-01-06 01:13:23 UTC  

They can (and do) forcibly deny access to necessities that others require. And extort things from them in exchange for these necessities

2021-01-06 01:14:10 UTC  

Are you aware, extortion is **the forced Appropriation of something, in exchange of other.**

2021-01-06 01:14:21 UTC  

Where is the force, on a trade.

2021-01-06 01:14:45 UTC  

The force is the threat of death if you do not

2021-01-06 01:14:55 UTC  

?

2021-01-06 01:14:55 UTC  

What?

2021-01-06 01:14:57 UTC  

I find it absolutely hilarious that you call me vile while you sit there and ponder if a certain group of people is mentally disabled and should thusly lose their human rights.

2021-01-06 01:14:58 UTC  

GG @Hellishfish, you just advanced to level 8!

2021-01-06 01:15:06 UTC  

Starvation is just as lethal as a gun, is it not?

2021-01-06 01:15:12 UTC  

What kinda clerks in your city you have that threaten your life If you don't want to pay?

2021-01-06 01:15:20 UTC  

Why do you commies always argue that every current system is coercive through starvation

2021-01-06 01:15:28 UTC  

@Signia you starve under any system

2021-01-06 01:15:45 UTC  

And its very fücking hard to starve currently

2021-01-06 01:15:54 UTC  

Because the choice between death and action is not a choice. It's a coercion

2021-01-06 01:16:07 UTC  

Well life is coercive i guess?

2021-01-06 01:16:11 UTC  

Then life IS coercion.

2021-01-06 01:16:19 UTC  

Currently yes

2021-01-06 01:16:24 UTC  

I aim to fix that

2021-01-06 01:16:25 UTC  

Maybe go create another reality where organic organism dont require energy

2021-01-06 01:16:31 UTC  

I said is it a human right for them to be able to mutilate themselves, which it isnt.

2021-01-06 01:16:36 UTC  

~~Solution, become a soulist.~~

2021-01-06 01:16:37 UTC  

lol good luck your hyper-idealist

2021-01-06 01:16:48 UTC  

Abandon your atom body

2021-01-06 01:16:53 UTC  

Ascend to the soul realm

2021-01-06 01:16:57 UTC  

Or just make a society where everyone can get what they need to survive.

2021-01-06 01:17:05 UTC  

Uhhuh

2021-01-06 01:17:11 UTC  

Another pipe-dream fantasy

2021-01-06 01:17:11 UTC  

With what incentive.

2021-01-06 01:17:37 UTC  

@Signia the goverment will be providing basic necessities which will be reinstating the system you removed

2021-01-06 01:18:00 UTC  

Do you understand the difference between government and state?

2021-01-06 01:18:31 UTC  

Theres a difference I’m aware under your hypothetical thats whats providing necessities

2021-01-06 01:18:37 UTC  

Many possible routes, mostly just focused on creating the next best system. We can figure out details as we get closer to an ideal

2021-01-06 01:19:00 UTC  

You can only 'have everyone have what they need' through forcing all individuals to be doing their part.
When you have individuals able to own their own thing, they are able to take Care of it, and possibly produce off of It. This case being land.

2021-01-06 01:19:23 UTC  

Said production may serve to fuel voluntary transactions or exchanges.

2021-01-06 01:19:25 UTC  

What do you say to people who get piercings? Do you have a big ethical breakdown over that?

2021-01-06 01:19:36 UTC  

Hellfish thats a 2017 argument

2021-01-06 01:19:42 UTC  

lel