What if someone is coming from a place where they would otherwise have died?

too bad

go somewhere else

So we should just let them die?

no, we will take them in

as laborers in prison

okay so norman

you ever read the story utopia?

people would emmigrate to that country

and then the country would enslave them

You're basing your ideal society off of a book from a few thousand years ago?

you believe that if they come here after deportation it should be forced labor or death yes?

not that long ago, less then 1 thousand

forced labor yes

deportation yes

death if they are dangerous

Still, their standards for what makes a good society are very different from modern standards

ok so?

morality doesnt change

Morality back then said that we could enslave people because they were black

ok so?

"forced labor yes
deportation yes
death if they are dangerous"

Do you think that doing that isn't immoral?

so

no relevance to present conversation

their crime is entering here illegaly yes norman?

How isn't it relevant?

yes

I'm using the same argument you did

and the lowering of wages is the moral charge yes?

i wasnt arguing from the book, i was making a connection to explain it better

I also don't get what you mean by this

Oh

well also they dont have any right to be here. wages is one negative impact

I see so

i believe in objective morality

Could you explain that?

GG @Benny, you just advanced to level 1!

As in, things are pretty black and white morally speaking?

i dont believe morality is just "whatever the norms of the society are" they are a real thing, as real as math

should the punishment for trespassing be forced labor or death norman?