Message from @Caesar
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2. free labor
i think we should make all prisoners do forced labor
not just illegals
First world countries rarely actually need free labor because of how rich they are
sure we do
Doesn't this seem extremely harsh for someone trying to get a better life?
we need someone to be macdonald worker
clean people house
wash they dishes
What if someone is coming from a place where they would otherwise have died?
too bad
go somewhere else
So we should just let them die?
no, we will take them in
as laborers in prison
okay so norman
you ever read the story utopia?
people would emmigrate to that country
and then the country would enslave them
You're basing your ideal society off of a book from a few thousand years ago?
not that long ago, less then 1 thousand
forced labor yes
deportation yes
death if they are dangerous
Still, their standards for what makes a good society are very different from modern standards
ok so?
morality doesnt change
Morality back then said that we could enslave people because they were black
ok so?
"forced labor yes
deportation yes
death if they are dangerous"
Do you think that doing that isn't immoral?
so
no relevance to present conversation
their crime is entering here illegaly yes norman?
How isn't it relevant?
yes
I'm using the same argument you did
and the lowering of wages is the moral charge yes?
i wasnt arguing from the book, i was making a connection to explain it better
I also don't get what you mean by this