Message from @Japheth

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2020-08-22 20:43:41 UTC  

lol

2020-08-24 00:58:52 UTC  
2020-08-24 20:46:18 UTC  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-9e6qpGmUE

This video goes into the blank slate theory from the enlightenment and I think it is really good. It is condensed in a way that is quite easy to grasp as well. The concept itself came from Locke.

2020-08-24 21:19:57 UTC  

i am at about 8 minutes in and so far my thoughts are, for one my earlier talk abotu a blank slate is referring to good and evil moreso than learning and experiences. I wold say itneresting how the videomaker relies on evolution theory a lot and even calls humans as animals kind reinforces my point; that is to say that people are arguably born blank in terms of good and evil (i would even argue they are born good if forced to choose between the two), but that the more they are tainted by the world the more evil they become. Still interesting video so far, and am resuming play now

2020-08-24 21:31:35 UTC  

Well you know JLP refers to the Fallen State of man. The natural inclination for man to be fallen. If I were forced to pick I would say that humans need to be taught for the most part to follow God, without the instruction they are in the Fallen State. Especially considering that I believe that my God is truly the only God. All other religions but mine are indeed false.

2020-08-24 21:32:32 UTC  

and by that I mean Christianity

2020-08-24 21:34:07 UTC  

well the Fallen State is the kingdom of evil, the kingdom of the world. This is to me just more to the point that people are born either blank in terms of good and evil, or are even arguably born good (as God when he first made Man pronounced him good), but then the more they are influenced by the world and become earthy, the more evil they will become since the earth is in opposition to the divine

2020-08-24 21:34:43 UTC  

Hmm interesting which is inevitable because they must experience the world in some way right.

2020-08-24 21:34:59 UTC  

Unless they are a miscarriage or something like that.

2020-08-24 21:35:41 UTC  

i notice now that the video is over, that the videomaker is very worldly in his outlook, he is essentially arguing that man is innately a beast, an animal, a creture of the earth and that his goal is essentially similar to the leftwing ideologues, that is they both desire via struggle against God to make the earth into what they conceptualize a utopia to be

2020-08-24 21:35:58 UTC  

but this can simply never be because the earth is evil and God will ultimately destroy the earth

2020-08-24 21:36:21 UTC  

Well its a video on the blank slate, not a video on his religious position.

2020-08-24 21:36:35 UTC  

So I think perhaps that is why it seems so worldly to you because he is specifically covering a worldly concept.

2020-08-24 21:37:03 UTC  

yea he is looking at it more in terms of politics

2020-08-24 21:37:49 UTC  

yet ironically his ideology is also leftwing and is not rightwing, because it's essentially the classic argument of the Struggle against God and trying to forge a utopic earth

2020-08-24 21:37:54 UTC  

very itneresting though for sure

2020-08-24 21:38:36 UTC  

I dont think he is trying to forge a Utopia, what makes you say that? Im curious.

2020-08-24 21:38:39 UTC  

and thanks for watching it

2020-08-24 21:38:44 UTC  

his last comments

2020-08-24 21:39:18 UTC  

Well right now our society is structured around Equality, which is a false God. He is saying that if we forego that then society will be better. not a utopia

2020-08-24 21:39:57 UTC  

In fact the very existence of the Welfare System itself is based on the concept of equality and its importance.

2020-08-24 21:40:12 UTC  

well that's jsut a false Struggle

2020-08-24 21:40:32 UTC  

the struggle for equality, just like he beleives there should be a darwinian struggle of the innate fittest

2020-08-24 21:40:40 UTC  

all leftwing ideolgoy is based on the Struggle

2020-08-24 21:40:49 UTC  

> the struggle for equality, just like he beleives there should be a darwinian struggle of the innate fittest
@Japheth
that exists whether we like it or not honestly.

2020-08-24 21:41:23 UTC  

no it doesn't

2020-08-24 21:41:38 UTC  

the Struggle is a lie basically

2020-08-24 21:41:39 UTC  

Especially before modernity. But even now it exists. The struggle for survival. If we were not struggling for survival and for the future generations, we would have never invented agriculture.

2020-08-24 21:41:58 UTC  

not at all

2020-08-24 21:42:01 UTC  

how so

2020-08-24 21:43:08 UTC  

because the true way is obedience to God and that God will provide and that God's is perfectly ordered and even in the beginning before Man fell due to the lies of the animal and the world, that Man was good and that he was like God being in God's image