Well you know JLP refers to the Fallen State of man. The natural inclination for man to be fallen. If I were forced to pick I would say that humans need to be taught for the most part to follow God, without the instruction they are in the Fallen State. Especially considering that I believe that my God is truly the only God. All other religions but mine are indeed false.

and by that I mean Christianity

well the Fallen State is the kingdom of evil, the kingdom of the world. This is to me just more to the point that people are born either blank in terms of good and evil, or are even arguably born good (as God when he first made Man pronounced him good), but then the more they are influenced by the world and become earthy, the more evil they will become since the earth is in opposition to the divine

Hmm interesting which is inevitable because they must experience the world in some way right.

Unless they are a miscarriage or something like that.

i notice now that the video is over, that the videomaker is very worldly in his outlook, he is essentially arguing that man is innately a beast, an animal, a creture of the earth and that his goal is essentially similar to the leftwing ideologues, that is they both desire via struggle against God to make the earth into what they conceptualize a utopia to be

but this can simply never be because the earth is evil and God will ultimately destroy the earth

Well its a video on the blank slate, not a video on his religious position.

So I think perhaps that is why it seems so worldly to you because he is specifically covering a worldly concept.

yea he is looking at it more in terms of politics

yet ironically his ideology is also leftwing and is not rightwing, because it's essentially the classic argument of the Struggle against God and trying to forge a utopic earth

very itneresting though for sure

I dont think he is trying to forge a Utopia, what makes you say that? Im curious.

and thanks for watching it

his last comments

Well right now our society is structured around Equality, which is a false God. He is saying that if we forego that then society will be better. not a utopia

In fact the very existence of the Welfare System itself is based on the concept of equality and its importance.

well that's jsut a false Struggle

the struggle for equality, just like he beleives there should be a darwinian struggle of the innate fittest

all leftwing ideolgoy is based on the Struggle

> the struggle for equality, just like he beleives there should be a darwinian struggle of the innate fittest
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that exists whether we like it or not honestly.

no it doesn't

the Struggle is a lie basically

Especially before modernity. But even now it exists. The struggle for survival. If we were not struggling for survival and for the future generations, we would have never invented agriculture.

not at all

how so

because the true way is obedience to God and that God will provide and that God's is perfectly ordered and even in the beginning before Man fell due to the lies of the animal and the world, that Man was good and that he was like God being in God's image

it's only after Man succumbs to the world and becomes more and more worldly that he strays from God and loses his godlikeness

once they cleave to lies, that's when the Struggle begins, but in the Truth there is no Struggle

I fundamentally disagree with that honestly.

Life itself is a struggle. Knowing and receiving God aids us in our struggle.

Because we know how to order a society, among other things.

no because that's not the true life

it will end in death because they were tainted by the world

Well we all meet our end in death.

but the true life is in God, and we see when God destroys the earth and the righteous live in New Jerusalem there will be no struggle, there will be no death

One could say that us discovering microbiology. Really really was a big leap in our struggle for survival on this planet.

That frankly seeks to kill you.

the struggle for survival is an artificial struggle, that is it is a lie to make them conform more and more to the earth

> but the true life is in God, and we see when God destroys the earth and the righteous live in New Jerusalem there will be no struggle, there will be no death
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I agree with this but until that day.

We must live as we are, while knowing God of course.