Gabbard is too young but to be fair, she's kinda hot. Pence is basically the conservative version of Biden. Caretaker president, at best. Wouldn't bother me at all.

> What do you mean by 'disentanglement'? Separate governments?
@Zuluzeit
No. Our votes should be separately counted and limited to the size of our county. Something like this would suffice. https://twitter.com/DrSammyD/status/1325969132844535808?s=19

So, that's setting up each state like its own republic, comprised of counties...and contravening the popular vote in the same way, more or less, right?

Depends on if you think the popular vote means "those who voted" or "how people would vote if it were mandatory"

I'll go with those who choose to vote. What then?

Then yes, it contravenes the count of those who choose to vote in favor of those who do vote representing their neighbors who can't or won't

I feel like that's the same thing as voting for felons, dead people and super old people.

The census is every 10 years. That rebalances

And people who choose to not vote for whatever reasons they have. Voting on someone's behalf, at the end of the day.

It would certainly be an interesting debate about legislation to watch, I tell you what.

I'd be fine with abolishing the electoral college in favor of this

I think there is a better argument for a straight popular vote.

That could be the trade

Straight popular vote disproportionately represents more dense population

Lol it measures the majority of Americans, regardless of location.

And makes Sybil attacks much easier

No. Cities have closer voting locations, better public transport, better get out the vote campaigns

Um, sorry for everyone else's luck? Maybe they could mail theirs in. lmmfao

Fine, if you don't want to compromise because of fair points I just brought up, we're keeping the EC

When i search for trumps legal defense page i just see stories and articles about it. Anyone got a link to the actual site?

It tells you on the donation page about how some of the money goes to not fighting the fight. They aren't hiding it, per se. People just have to read it.

Someone posted a link here a few days ago. I looked at it. Spoiler: I didn't donate.

@DrSammyD I don't see how further skewing of the electoral college schemata is a compromise. It's elaborate gerrymandering.

It's not gerrymandering. You apportion the vote based on how the county split

If it had showed up less red, you'd have no part of it. The further away from majority of Americans it gets, the more clearly rigged it is, by design.

There's actually another version where you give away 💯 of the county instead of apportion it, and it goes for Biden

I'd be fine with that too

We should further subdivide into cities, weighted by population. Then by blocks. Then by individuals. Oh wait, nvm.

But I was trying to approximate popular vote not make more EC

If Illinois comes out red, at about 40% Republican vote, it ain't right.

Still (sincerely), it is an interesting exhibit. Definitely a fresh perspective and an example of helpful and earnest reimagining.

The people responsible for ensuring that your vote is not diluted (poll workers) should be directly accountable to you. popular vote allows people in San Francisco to dilute your vote if you're a New Yorker.

That sounds like a counting methodology issue. People are married to the republic idea, so I don't typically argue against EC (as much as I hate it). States seem like the largest allowable level to preserve popular will of the majority of American people. And mind you, this affects only 2 elected offices... albeit with a huge pile of appointees from them.

We'll, it should apply to all state wide elections

The more we talk about it, the more brilliant the original setup reveals itself to be.

Even if we totally drop the ball on presidential elections every single time, it doesn't forfeit the whole game. That's why we have congress and not a monarchy. Which is the beauty of it, I reckon.

State elections are districted in a sane way where I live, as far as I know. I can tell because we end up with the same interchangeable piece of shit governor 9 times out of 10. Currently, it's Pritzker.

Yeah, you should probably switch to ranked choice 😄

Hahaha. I wish. The majority of our people straight up want criminal governors and their will is realized. Blows my mind every time one of them gets indicted and/or disgraced and people just keep voting straight Democrat. It's embarrassing and hard to defend, which is why I don't try.

the electoral college is on its way out, without an amendment