Message from @Zuluzeit
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@DrSammyD it was said they have the ability to but one would need to upload software to make it do so...as in the software delivered with them didn't do so
I think that same person said it would take about 7min to upload some software they made that could make the machines mark anything
7min per machine unless they were all "connected"
@RickyDigits According to a close friend that works on the state side of these machines they are not suppose to be connected to the internet 72 hours before the election and 72 hours after the election. Also the machines are connected through vendor specific switches when they need to connect to the vendor and someone is supposed to monitor the updates being done. The vendors are supposed to provide information of what the update is supposed to do to the machines. Those rules were created in 2018 after the midterm elections.
When your theory has more special bandaids than skin, that should tell you something.
@WatchingYouDaily so then there should be some government types who should have the answers as to what was in those last min updates which probably required those machines to be connected to said switch
> @WatchingYouDaily so then there should be some government types who should have the answers as to what was in those last min updates which probably required those machines to be connected to said switch
@RickyDigits Yes there should be because someone from IT in each county would have to be there and their should be some kind of email history or work order history for it. The switches are required to be in a highly secured area and the ethernet connects for the machines should have shielded cabling from the RJ45 jack to the switch.
Remember when they stopped counting for the night and told people to go home? Then kept counting after people left?
You know how I know democrats are evil? Not a single one of them has said good! Do a recount!
People who want recounts ask for them, not those who don't. If you hear anyone say 'Bad! Don't do a recount!', then you have a gripe. I am a Democrat and want every ballot validated and every single issue litigated, even though there is literally no proof possible for some people. It would only be good for the objective portion of our population anyway.
"I do not see, short of finding some type of fraud which I haven't heard of anything-I don't see us in any serious way addressing a change in electors," https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/14/ploy-flip-electors-trump-rejected-republican-leaders-4-key-states/6298966002/
I don't want Trump to win. I want elections fixed/political disentanglement with those who don't
What do you mean by 'disentanglement'? Separate governments?
Trump is still the lessor evil
Meh. Trump's propaganda worked like a charm on exactly the people we all knew it would. Muddy the waters and tie such a complicated knot that it makes more sense to them to just cut it. Many predicted he would attempt to poison the well and scorch the earth in his wake and this confirms it for the hundredth time.
Pence/Gabbord would have been the safest
Gabbard is too young but to be fair, she's kinda hot. Pence is basically the conservative version of Biden. Caretaker president, at best. Wouldn't bother me at all.
> What do you mean by 'disentanglement'? Separate governments?
@Zuluzeit
No. Our votes should be separately counted and limited to the size of our county. Something like this would suffice. https://twitter.com/DrSammyD/status/1325969132844535808?s=19
So, that's setting up each state like its own republic, comprised of counties...and contravening the popular vote in the same way, more or less, right?
Depends on if you think the popular vote means "those who voted" or "how people would vote if it were mandatory"
Then yes, it contravenes the count of those who choose to vote in favor of those who do vote representing their neighbors who can't or won't
I feel like that's the same thing as voting for felons, dead people and super old people.
The census is every 10 years. That rebalances
And people who choose to not vote for whatever reasons they have. Voting on someone's behalf, at the end of the day.
It would certainly be an interesting debate about legislation to watch, I tell you what.
I'd be fine with abolishing the electoral college in favor of this
I think there is a better argument for a straight popular vote.
That could be the trade
Straight popular vote disproportionately represents more dense population
Lol it measures the majority of Americans, regardless of location.
And makes Sybil attacks much easier
No. Cities have closer voting locations, better public transport, better get out the vote campaigns
Um, sorry for everyone else's luck? Maybe they could mail theirs in. lmmfao
Fine, if you don't want to compromise because of fair points I just brought up, we're keeping the EC
When i search for trumps legal defense page i just see stories and articles about it. Anyone got a link to the actual site?
It tells you on the donation page about how some of the money goes to not fighting the fight. They aren't hiding it, per se. People just have to read it.
Someone posted a link here a few days ago. I looked at it. Spoiler: I didn't donate.
@DrSammyD I don't see how further skewing of the electoral college schemata is a compromise. It's elaborate gerrymandering.
It's not gerrymandering. You apportion the vote based on how the county split