Message from @DrSammyD

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2020-11-15 06:22:58 UTC  

I feel like that's the same thing as voting for felons, dead people and super old people.

2020-11-15 06:23:41 UTC  

The census is every 10 years. That rebalances

2020-11-15 06:23:42 UTC  

And people who choose to not vote for whatever reasons they have. Voting on someone's behalf, at the end of the day.

2020-11-15 06:24:47 UTC  

It would certainly be an interesting debate about legislation to watch, I tell you what.

2020-11-15 06:25:50 UTC  

I'd be fine with abolishing the electoral college in favor of this

2020-11-15 06:26:10 UTC  

I think there is a better argument for a straight popular vote.

2020-11-15 06:26:13 UTC  

That could be the trade

2020-11-15 06:26:50 UTC  

Straight popular vote disproportionately represents more dense population

2020-11-15 06:27:25 UTC  

Lol it measures the majority of Americans, regardless of location.

2020-11-15 06:27:46 UTC  

And makes Sybil attacks much easier

2020-11-15 06:28:40 UTC  

No. Cities have closer voting locations, better public transport, better get out the vote campaigns

2020-11-15 06:29:35 UTC  

Um, sorry for everyone else's luck? Maybe they could mail theirs in. lmmfao

2020-11-15 06:29:45 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771201221145919499/777420055926669332/sgroqbxis8z51.jpg

2020-11-15 06:30:39 UTC  

Fine, if you don't want to compromise because of fair points I just brought up, we're keeping the EC

2020-11-15 06:30:47 UTC  

When i search for trumps legal defense page i just see stories and articles about it. Anyone got a link to the actual site?

2020-11-15 06:31:21 UTC  

It tells you on the donation page about how some of the money goes to not fighting the fight. They aren't hiding it, per se. People just have to read it.

2020-11-15 06:32:07 UTC  

Someone posted a link here a few days ago. I looked at it. Spoiler: I didn't donate.

2020-11-15 06:34:32 UTC  

@DrSammyD I don't see how further skewing of the electoral college schemata is a compromise. It's elaborate gerrymandering.

2020-11-15 06:36:10 UTC  

It's not gerrymandering. You apportion the vote based on how the county split

2020-11-15 06:36:11 UTC  

If it had showed up less red, you'd have no part of it. The further away from majority of Americans it gets, the more clearly rigged it is, by design.

2020-11-15 06:37:23 UTC  

There's actually another version where you give away 💯 of the county instead of apportion it, and it goes for Biden

2020-11-15 06:37:35 UTC  

I'd be fine with that too

2020-11-15 06:37:42 UTC  

We should further subdivide into cities, weighted by population. Then by blocks. Then by individuals. Oh wait, nvm.

2020-11-15 06:38:08 UTC  

But I was trying to approximate popular vote not make more EC

2020-11-15 06:39:04 UTC  

If Illinois comes out red, at about 40% Republican vote, it ain't right.

2020-11-15 06:41:43 UTC  

Still (sincerely), it is an interesting exhibit. Definitely a fresh perspective and an example of helpful and earnest reimagining.

2020-11-15 06:44:35 UTC  

The people responsible for ensuring that your vote is not diluted (poll workers) should be directly accountable to you. popular vote allows people in San Francisco to dilute your vote if you're a New Yorker.

2020-11-15 06:50:08 UTC  

That sounds like a counting methodology issue. People are married to the republic idea, so I don't typically argue against EC (as much as I hate it). States seem like the largest allowable level to preserve popular will of the majority of American people. And mind you, this affects only 2 elected offices... albeit with a huge pile of appointees from them.

2020-11-15 06:51:07 UTC  

We'll, it should apply to all state wide elections

2020-11-15 06:51:18 UTC  

The more we talk about it, the more brilliant the original setup reveals itself to be.

2020-11-15 06:53:59 UTC  

Even if we totally drop the ball on presidential elections every single time, it doesn't forfeit the whole game. That's why we have congress and not a monarchy. Which is the beauty of it, I reckon.

2020-11-15 06:56:21 UTC  

State elections are districted in a sane way where I live, as far as I know. I can tell because we end up with the same interchangeable piece of shit governor 9 times out of 10. Currently, it's Pritzker.

2020-11-15 06:58:44 UTC  

Yeah, you should probably switch to ranked choice 😄

2020-11-15 07:01:31 UTC  

Hahaha. I wish. The majority of our people straight up want criminal governors and their will is realized. Blows my mind every time one of them gets indicted and/or disgraced and people just keep voting straight Democrat. It's embarrassing and hard to defend, which is why I don't try.

2020-11-15 09:30:23 UTC  

the electoral college is on its way out, without an amendment

2020-11-15 09:30:40 UTC  

there are a bunch of states that already donate their EC votes to the popular majority vote automatically

2020-11-15 09:30:57 UTC  

as soon as that reaches 50% of the EC votes, the EC is mathematically over

2020-11-15 09:31:03 UTC  

and it is already almost there

2020-11-15 09:31:24 UTC  

the dems are going to try to do this in every state they turn blue

2020-11-15 09:31:37 UTC  

Correct

2020-11-15 09:31:42 UTC  

over time they will have the states they need