Message from @realz
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Yeah, criticism of anything doesn't come across as a valid premise.
Criticism of the president equaling an argument for fraud claims (i believe what you're getting at) is also doodoo.
> Although when you compare the two relevant to this election, the left-leaning groups are currently the ones to be more wary of. I mean, they more-or-less harassed vote officials in Wayne County to certify results. Although making kidnap plots against sitting elected representatives (e.g. Gov. Whitmer) is also something to worry about
@DeathRhodes666 There's no evidence these guys were influenced by 'the right'... from all indications they were anarchists, antifa types
You know what, I do remember a video of the suspects where one of them said "F*** Trump" I believe. I'll have to dig up the video or articles to be sure.
We all make a big mistake when thinking everything is binary. Elections are binary unfortunately. Everything else comes from all directions. Just because they wanted to hurt Witmer doesn't mean they were Republicans, right-wing or Trumpistas
> @DeathRhodes666 There's no evidence these guys were influenced by 'the right'... from all indications they were anarchists, antifa types
@stevesirag this isn't true
@DeathRhodes666 I mean, it could show motive but that would certainly extend to clearly uninvolved parties, such as myself, and 'The Left' isn't a pragmatically tenable suspect. Also, every offense perpetrated against entities which I have criticized should have landed me in jail by now. Lol
There is plenty of evidence just Google it
Lots of right wingers say f trump
I'm a libertarian, I say it every day
Antifa types aren't going to be taking pictures with confederate flags or say "liberty or death"
(they are pretty explcitly "anti liberal" in the freedom sense)
This line of argument seems like bad faith tbqh
Saying "f trump" is not a sign of jack shit, every extremist (for good or bad) becomes a purist of some kind and denounces their milktoast leaders as not pure enough; does that mean they are of the _opposing_ side?
Some of the suspects are former military, and have expressed support for qanon or other stuff publicly
Can you see a "antifa types" doing that?
This line of argument just doesn't make any sense
:jackie chan face:
The only part of your argument I agree with is that it doesn't necessarily reflect on any of the larger groups which they may be members of (republicans, right wingers or trump supporters)
But you are so afraid of the crazy-veto and guilt-by-association that it is motivating you to think wrongly
You no longer have to be afraid of that
If someone brings up the crazy veto, just blame the riots on BLM supporters
If you're appearing in a training glorification video with your ISIS beard and the only thing distinguishing it from an Al Qaeda propaganda piece is your Oakleys, you're not antifa.
undergoing divergent radicalization
Just like McVeigh started out as a combat veteran, later libertarian, went to Elohim City and came out as....something completely different.
Would we then have called him 'antifa', as used in the current vernacular? Because as far far as I can tell, 'antifa' is interchangeable with 'communist' and encompasses whatever properties the right wing outrage du jour requires of it.
Hi Folks
i am not from US but this sh1t with the election got me really interested, curious to know since there are two truths told in the media, how solid is this case?
because if true this will have far greater reach and ramifications that just USA
thanks forlks
Depends on who you ask. For some, no proof is necessary. For others, no proof is possible. That's why we have to leave it to the courts.
in the media it says courts dismiss the cases, problem is i have no idea which media to trust 😄
i just googled sidney powell and i got this
Voter fraud can be found in the Maricopa County, AZ data as seen by the Overvote (Spoilage) number and the Undervote (no selection) trends for presidential, when compared to the US Senator position as next item on Ballot. 10 times more Overvote for Presidential (5002) vs. Senatorial (458) Overvote events.
are all of you folks here lawyers or ?
Last Wednesday’s lawsuits need to be re-introduced back in court, as the defense lied to the court saying the Overvote only represented 202 voters.
if all of this proves to be true, and the fact that many other world countries were using these systems , this will be a real sh1t show unless shoved under the rug
cant say i am not curious how all of this will play out
The Undervote is over 8000 uncounted votes at the Presidential part of the ballot. Highly unlikely.
sorry i am not from US so i really dont know how voting or politics works there xD, i am not big into politics , but i am curious about the truth here
because if true this will be