I read through several of the reports from the last submittal by Dominion - their v5.5A version. They identified concerns about difficulties in setting up the demonstration system. The fact that machines had an ethernet port (citing that they could not ensure that precincts would not plug them in). They also thought that the application logging was insufficient. For example, not recording notifications of unauthorized USB devices being plugged in. These were recorded in the system log, but Election managers would not be able to find it easily.

@TaLoN132 why do you believe them? @RobertGrulerEsq, in his last show, presented how they had manipulative language on their site.

What do you feel their position should be?

Trump did do something... He formed CISA under the DHS. I did some research on the head of CISA and he seems very legit - even after Trump fired him last week.

Anyway, for those who don't think machines are connected to the internet...

They use a "cloud based architecture". I can't read the names, but this is the Dallas County Voting architecture. It was hosted on AWS machines.

Oh, so the very mechanism he put in place found things to be acceptable. Perhaps they are part of the conspiracy. Hard to say.

You can see it's multiple machines, and it's standard business practice for companies to operate in this manner as @TaLoN132 would agree.

If you do not have the proper security set in place for the entire system, one of these services can be compromised.

AWS by the way hosts multiple servers ALL OVER THE WORLD. So it's very easy to imagine that the servers were hosted in Frankfurt, Germany or in Spain

AWS hosts the machines all over the world to reduce latency and to allow redundancy for companies. If I have my application hosted in CA and Japan, then if an earthquake hits CA, my application will still run because it's housed in Japan

@NoobDad What I got from the last show is that he was trying to evaluate the denials for language that he might be able to ascertain hidden meaning in the language that they chose to use. I am guessing he was taking this from a legal perspective. With as quickly that these refutations were posted, I'm not sure we can assume that they were put together by a lawyer. It could have been a nerd like me.

This is standard practice in the industry.

Probably would have been a lot of pushback from Amazon if the government was trying to seize servers from one of their data centers. It sounds like the servers (if they were seized) belongd to a Scytl data center.

If all of the agencies, including the one implemented to validate specifically this stuff, are willing to turn a blind eye, we are truly lost.

@linuxace Yea, you're probably right, but I'm just saying if they're hosted on AWS, it's not that big of a leap to say a server was in Germany too

it could have been a "mis-click" or something, who knows, AWS product line is very complicated

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I'm just saying it's not that hard to belive taht a server is on foreign soil if they're using a cloud-based architecture

Did any actual evidence of this dominon thing get argued in court yet

@james j, you just advanced to level 4!

The initial source of the Scytl story was a Tweet that was found in German that said that Scytl was being raided in Frankfurt. That's all it took to get the rumor mill going. The Army has denied it. Scytl has denied it saying that they don't have offices or servers in Frankfurt.

@james j Russell Ramsland signed an affidavit as part of the Lin Wood Georgia appeal, but it was rejected for standing, but I'm assuming they're appealing.

He's part of this process.

I don't think the military would raid it to begin with.

I'm pretty sure that's not how foreign relations work.

There is a long and arduous process associated with these sorts of things.

The American military doesn't just go around kicking down doors in other countries.

Also, there is misinformation about what kind of information Scytl is provided and/or stored. Scytl provides a dashboard application. It only represents aggregated/pre-tabulated data. Individual ballot data is not uploaded to Scytl.

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I read somewhere that Scytl had a backup server in Germany. It wouldn't have been the U.S. Army that seized it. It would have been either the CIA or an agency connected to the State Dept. They would have to coordinate and get approval from Germany. Totally possible based on my experience with the Federal government.

That process takes a fair amount of time @linuxace

So during their research Russell found that the same SSL certificate was being used for the following sites:

trumply people you lose, no more 😎

Basically if you crack one votign site, you can pretty much access any of the other ones on the list.

Lmao 'Trumply'

It's obvious their priority is not security.

If it did happen, I imagine it would have been pre-planned and worked out with Germany months ago. It sounds like many agencies were already prepped to do these things. Again, I don't know if it really happened but I don't doubt that it could get done in this time frame.

They weren't operating in a vacuum, guy.

It would likely be a raid handled by the rapid response teams from Germany and handed to the Americans.